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McVeigh interview sheds light on the social roots of the Oklahoma
City bombing
By David Walsh
30 March 2000
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On March 12, CBS television's 60 Minutes broadcast
an interview with Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. It was
only the second media interview conducted with McVeigh since the
1997 trial at which he was convicted and sentenced to death. He
is currently incarcerated at a federal maximum-security prison
in Terre Haute, Indiana.
Evidence at McVeigh's trial revealed how he constructed a 4,800-pound
bomb in a rental truck and parked it in downtown Oklahoma City
near the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995.
The resulting explosion killed 168 people, including 19 children,
and wounded 600. His actions were guided by extreme right-wing
conceptions. He apparently hoped that the bombing of a federal
facility would precipitate a civil war and ultimate overthrow
of the government by rightist militia forces.
The bombing was a horrific crime. But neither the act nor the
circumstances that conditioned McVeigh to commit it can simply
be ascribed to individual malevolence. As McVeigh's 60 Minutes
interview underscored, the terrorist atrocity was ultimately the
product of definite social and political conditions, which found
a pathological expression in the actions of a particularly susceptible
individual.
This aspect of the bombing has, not surprisingly, been all
but ignored in the reams of media commentary of the past five
years. To the extent that McVeigh is simply portrayed as a monster,
the broader and more disturbing implications of his crime are
more easily overlooked.
In his interview, McVeigh placed emphasis on his experiences
as a soldier in the 1991 US-led invasion of Iraq. He said the
war disillusioned him and deepened his anger against the government.
He told CBS correspondent Ed Bradley, I went over there
hyped up, just like everyone else. What I experienced, though,
was an entirely different ball game. And being face-to-face, close
with these people in personal contact, you realize they're just
people like you.
One might argue that McVeigh's opposition to the Persian Gulf
War is of recent origin, perhaps an attempt to give himself a
more human face. But even were that the case, it would not alter
the fact that McVeigh touches on something very realthe
trauma and psychologically damage that come from being thrown
into a strange country to kill and destroy, especially when one
is using the most advanced weaponry in an unequal fight against
an outmanned and poorly equipped foe.
As a soldier who fought with McVeigh reported, their unit made
ready for battle by chanting, Blood makes the grass grow.
Kill! Kill! Kill!
American capitalism has over the past four decades subjected
hundreds of thousands of young people to just such trauma, in
the pursuit of its global ambitions. The psychological and moral
damage is compounded by the hypocrisy of the government and media,
which justify militarism and the most terrible crimes with the
most lofty rhetoric.
In his conversation with Bradley, McVeigh went on to say that
the killing of right-wing activist Randy Weaver's wife and son
by federal agents at Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992 and the killingalso
by federal law enforcement officersof some 80 members of
the Branch Davidian sect in Waco, Texas in 1993 deepened his anger
against the federal government. The Oklahoma City bombing took
place two years to the day after the Waco incident.
Weaver was, to put it mildly, no friend of the working class.
But that does not alter the fact that the deaths at Ruby Ridge
were the unnecessary result of excessive force. The Waco massacre
was an act of cold-blooded murder by the Clinton administration.
It was carried out to make an object lesson of the religious cultists,
whose real crime, as far as the government was concerned, was
to challenge the authority of the state.
In the 60 Minutes interview McVeigh refused to
speak directly about the Oklahoma City bombing. He merely said,
Like everyone else, I thought it was a tragic event, and
that's all I really want to say. Bradley: And the
children? McVeigh: I thought it was terrible that
there were children in the building.
When he was asked if he would do anything differently if he
could live his life over, he replied, somewhat chillingly: I've
thought about that quite a few times. And I think anybody in life
says, I wish I could have gone back and done this differently,
done that differently.' There are moments, but no one that stands
out.
When Bradley asked if it were acceptable to use violence against
the government, McVeigh replied: If government is the teacher,
violence would be an acceptable option. He went on, referring
to US missile attacks against alleged terrorists and the NATO
war in Kosovo, What did we do to Sudan? What did we do to
Afghanistan? Belgrade? What are we doing with the death penalty?
It appears they use violence as an option all the time.
These are telling points. They do not excuse McVeigh's crime,
but they help explain it. They provide a framework for considering
how a rather ordinary youth was transformed into someone capable
of carrying out mass murder.
McVeigh was born in the late 1960s to working class parents,
who divorced when he was 10. He was brought up in Pendleton, New
York, near the decaying industrial center of Buffalo. His father
and grandfather both worked for decades in the same auto parts
plant, which stopped hiring in 1979.
The youth grew to manhood in the Reagan-Bush years, with all
that implies. By the age of 14 he was already a survivalist, obsessed
with guns and stockpiling food against the supposed danger of
a nuclear attack or a communist takeover. Hostility to affirmative
action became another theme in his outlook, leading to openly
racist views.
Joining the army in 1988, McVeigh took to military life. He
rose to sergeant and considered making the army his career. He
avidly read survivalist magazines and rented the 1983 film, Red
Dawn about Midwestern teenagers battling the Soviet
armyfour times. He rented a storage locker in a nearby town
and stockpiled food, water and weapons. The Gulf War interrupted
his plans for a military career.
After discharge from the army, McVeigh held a number of low-paying
jobs, often as a security guard. He drifted between Pendleton,
Decker, Michigan, home of co-conspirator Terry Nichols, and Kingman,
Arizona. Coworkers remember outbursts of anger. He was apparently
delusional, telling people in Decker that the army had implanted
a microchip in his buttocks so they could spy on him.
In 1992 he wrote a letter to the editor of the Lockport
(New York) Union-Sun, in which he bewailed rising crime,
cataclysmic taxes, politicians serving only themselves
and the disappearance of the American Dream ... substituted
with people struggling just to buy next week's groceries.... AMERICA
IS IN DECLINE.
McVeigh's visits to Michigan put him into contact with the
emerging right-wing militia movement. He became involved in the
gun business, at one point advertising an anti-tank missile launcher
in the far-right Spotlight, an anti-Semitic and fascistic
publication. It was during this period that McVeigh's political
outlook gelled.
As this brief sketch of his life indicates, McVeigh grew up
at a time when the ruling elite in the US was relentlessly promulgating
extreme right-wing conceptions: anticommunism, religious bigotry,
anti-gay prejudice, militarism and chauvinismall of this
overlaid with Social Darwinist notions about the survival of the
fittest. The essential purpose of this ideological onslaught was
to justify the accumulation of massive wealth in the hands of
an elite at the expense of wide layers of the population.
Millions of working class youth like McVeigh were left with
little hope of a fulfilling life or a decent future. Everything
and everyone was to be sacrificed to the pursuit of profit. Worship
of the marketequated with freedomassumed
a semi-religious character.
For a whole set of complex historical reasons, the frustration,
resentment and sense of injustice generated by the social reaction
and hypocrisy of the Reagan years did not find expression in the
development of a mass, anti-capitalist movement of the working
class. Indeed, the vast majority of Americans were denied access
to the views of socialists, since the media exercised (and continues
to exercise) a de facto ban on anti-capitalist opinion. Under
these conditions, considerable numbers of distraught, disoriented
people identified anti-government protest with the
right, where demagoguesassiduously promoted by the mediapromised
a quick fix to America's problems.
Sections of the political elite openly cultivated the militia-type
movements. The links between numerous Republican national and
state politicians and extreme right-wing groups are well established.
It would oversimplify matters to describe McVeigh as the automatic
result of these social and ideological conditions. His own emotional
instability obviously came into play. There is something deranged
about him. That his derangement took the particular form it did,
however, has a broader social significance.
The same social soil that brought forward the right-wing terrorist
McVeigh holds the seeds of a very different development. If the
media systematically blocks socialist and left-wing ideas from
reaching the general population, it is because its nervousness
is well-founded. If masses of people were aware of the alternative
represented by genuine socialismwith its critique of inequality,
class exploitation and the waste of human and material resources
in a system geared to enriching a privileged fewa socialist
perspective would find an enormous response. In fact, the conditions
for a movement to the left by a great number of people are rapidly
maturing.
See Also:
Biography of John
William King highlights brutalization of American society
[26 February 1999]
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