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Extolling the politics of expediency: an interview with US
Green Party leaders
By Jerry White
2 September 2000
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On June 23-25, the US Green Party held its national convention
in Denver, Colorado and chose Ralph Nader as its presidential
candidate for the 2000 elections. This reporter covered the convention
for the World Socialist Web Site.
The Nader campaign has received considerable media publicity.
Polls indicate that it could have a significant impact on the
vote for Democratic candidate Al Gore in certain states, possibly
affecting the outcome of the presidential race.
But to what extent do the Greens represent a genuine break
from the big business-dominated two-party system? The interviews
below shed some light on this question.
Among those with whom I spoke at the convention, two delegates
were particularly well-placed in the organization. They were John
Resenbrink, one of the principal founders of the Greens in the
US, and Scott McLarty, a media coordinator and adviser in Nader's
1996 Green Party presidential campaign. McLarty is also the party's
candidate for city council in Washington, DC.
Resenbrink, a retired political science professor, helped launch
the US Greens at a meeting in Augusta, Maine in January 1984.
He is the author of the 1999 book Against All Odds: the Green
Transformation of American Politics.
Like many of those who helped found the US Greens, Resenbrink
was involved in liberal protest movements in the 1960s and 1970s
against racial discrimination, poverty and the Vietnam War. Like
many of those who would go on to found the Greens, Resenbrink
was active in Democratic Party politics.
It is significant that Resenbrink and other founders of the
Greens did not break with the Democratic Party over the Vietnam
War. Despite their opposition to the war, they did not draw the
conclusion that the Democratic Party, as well as the Republican
Party, was an instrument of a definite classthe American
capitalist classand represented in essence the interests
of US imperialism. Their eventual departure from the Democrats
had far more the character of a pragmatic and tactical move, rather
than a principled political break.
When they left the Democrats in the early 1980s, it was not
from a theoretically clarified standpoint, based on an historical
assessment of the class character of the Democratic Party. Instead
their estrangement developed largely because they found it increasingly
difficult to influence the party on such issues as women's rights,
environmental protection and nuclear power.
In the 1970s Resenbrink had been a leader of the Reform Democrats
of Maine, a short-lived faction that sought to pressure the state
party. As the Democratic Party in the early 1980s adapted itself
to the right-wing politics of Ronald Reagan, Resenbrink supported
Jesse Jackson, in the hope that the party could be returned to
its liberal past. Resenbrink only quit the Democrats when Jackson's
1983-84 bid for the party's presidential nomination was rejected.
As he told this reporter, In 1984 activists from the
anti-nuclear, tenants' rights and back-to-the-land movements came
together in the first organized meeting of the Greens in the US.
A number of us had been active in the Democratic Party, and some
would later go back to the Democrats. I had been very excited
about Jesse Jackson's campaign and was very angry by the way he
was treated by the Democratic leadership.
Resenbrink said the founding members of the US Greens were
galvanized by the election victory of the West German Greens in
1983. They won six percent of the vote in the West German
elections and had 27 members of parliament elected. At our second
meeting in St. Paul, Minnesota later in 1984, we discussed a book,
written by Charlene Spretnak, that focused on what lessons we
could take from the success of the West Germans for the US movement.
For Resenbrink and other founders of the US Greens, the predominant
measure of success was the number of seats gained
in a bourgeois election and the extent to which their West German
counterparts obtained a foothold in the institutions of the state.
Success was not measured from the standpoint of effecting a fundamental
change in economic and social relations, or advancing the political
consciousness of the masses to fight for such a change. Having
failed to influence the Democratic Party from within, Resenbrink
and his co-thinkers looked to the example of the West German Greens
as a model for influencing the US political establishment through
electoral activities.
I asked Resenbrink for his assessment of the political record
of the German Greens, particularly their role as partners in the
ruling coalition headed by the Social Democrats, which has slashed
social spending and taxes on big business, and participated in
NATO's war against Yugoslavia. Resenbrink did not attempt any
explanation for the Greens' embrace of German imperialist interests,
and only said that the Kosovo War had caused a big conflict
in the party, with many supporting the position of [Green Party
leader and German Foreign Minister] Jokscha Fischer, and many
who didn't.
Significantly, in Resenbrink's book, published on the eve of
the 1999 Balkan War, he condemns various European and Latin American
Social Democratic parties for being co-opted by the powers-that-be,
but says nothing about the German Greens.
Like many of the ideological forebears of the Greens, Resenbrink
regards the conception of the class struggle to be outmoded, arguing
it has been superceded by an impending ecological disaster which
has drawn all social classes into a common struggle for survival.
For Greens, he writes, ecology is a central
factor in all of the issues...especially, the structure and operations
of the economy and its allocation and treatment of resources.
It's not enough to contest and try to overcome the dominance of
megacorporations, or to separate them from the pockets of politicians,
or even to seek to make them, internally, compatible with democracy.
He continues: For Greens, it is a blazing necessity that
businesses of all kinds, from small to very large, develop a new
relationship with nature, one that radically reduces waste, eliminates
pollution and ecological degradation, and ends the mindless depletion
of natural resources.
In the course of our discussion, Resenbrink made it clear that
the Greens' proposals were not anti-capitalist. What we
propose is not necessarily bad for profits, he said. He
praised Richard Grossman, the author of a recent book entitled
Natural Capitalism, which argues that the profit system
is not inherently hostile to the environment, and that corporate
executives can be good environmentalists and successful capitalists
at the same time. We can influence capital and show them
how environmentally sound decisions can be good for profits too,
Resenbrink said.
Scott McLarty, 42, began his political activity in the 1980s.
After many years in and around the Democratic Party, including
working with Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition and Minnesota Senator
Paul Wellstone, McLarty left the Democrats in 1995 and soon after
went to work for Nader's 1996 campaign.
In our discussion, he described the Green Party as the defender
of small, independent entrepreneurs against global
corporations. McLarty elaborated: We would say it
is no longer a question of socialism versus capitalism, because
capitalism has split into two directions now. There is the level
of the local entrepreneurlet me call that entrepreneurial
capitalism. Family farms, mom- and pop-owned shops, family businesses,
small businesses. On the other hand, we face this increasing rule
by global corporations, and that is a much different kind of capitalism
from low-level, entrepreneurial capitalism.
In this way McLarty spelled out the Greens' basic class standpointthat
of the petty proprietor who is being crushed by big capital. In
reality, the free competition stage of American capitalism
was superseded by monopoly capitalism well over a century ago.
And contrary to McLarty's rose-colored portrayal of what he calls
agrarian capitalism, the days of subsistence farming
and rural backwardness were far from a paradise for the masses
of working people.
What McLarty and the Greens are arguing for, in the name of
anti-globalization, is a retrogression to a more primitive stage
in the development of man's productive forces. Their ideal is
a reactionary utopia.
There is no question that the transnational corporations and
organizations such as the World Trade Organization (WTO) contribute
to the further impoverishment and exploitation of the world's
working people. That, however, is the product not of the global
integration of economic life per se, but rather the fact that
this essentially progressive development remains within the reactionary
framework of the capitalist market and the system of competing
nation states.
The technological and scientific progress associated with globalization
presents man with unprecedented means to raise his material and
cultural level. This, however, requires that the working class
liberate the productive forces from the control of capital, which
subordinates all advances in technology to its drive for private
profit. The Greens, however, explicitly reject such a struggle
by the working class.
Their backward-looking perspective is linked to their calls
for economic nationalism and their defense of the nation state.
Nader and the Greens denounce the subversion of US
sovereignty by transnational corporations and institutions like
the WTO, and call for trade restrictions to protect locally-based
industries against global competition. This nationalist
perspective aligns the Greens with the AFL-CIO trade union bureaucracy.
The logic of this standpointand the social forces whose
outlook it articulatesinevitably bring the Greens into political
proximity to extreme right-wing forces, including the fascistic
tendency headed by Patrick Buchanan.
This was underscored by McLarty's response to a question about
Nader's common front with the AFL-CIO and Buchanan against trade
agreements with Mexico and China. He said, The tension between
socialism and capitalism, which drove a large part of the twentieth
century, is no longer quite so clear. What we have now is more
of a conflict between global corporate power and whatever resists
that.
I asked, Whatever resists that? Is Pat Buchanan resisting?
McLarty replied, Yes, he is part of the resistance.
Is Le Pen in France? I asked. Yes,
McLarty said.
Clearly uncomfortable with such an admission, McLarty added,
Actually I divide the resistance into two groups. There
are the neo-theocrats, which include Le Pen, Pat Buchanan, the
Islamic and Christian fundamentalist movementswho speak
about blood or soil or the supernatural. The other kind of resistance
is a democratic resistance that stresses human rights, economic
justice and the environment. Between these two groups, there is
a certain amount of overlap.
Notwithstanding McLarty's misgivings, the reality remains that
the Greens' promotion of economic nationalism and its alliance
with the AFL-CIO bureaucracy help create a political climate for
ultra-nationalist and fascistic forces to grow. But this is not
a consequence about which the Greens seem to concern themselves.
In fact, they tend not to think beyond the most immediate, pragmatic
level, and are generally consumed with whether or not a given
tactic will gain them votes.
For example, McLarty acknowledged that the United Auto Workers
and Teamsters bureaucracies had long ago sold out their
members, and that the union officialdom's xenophobic campaigns
served to block the international unity of workers. But, he said,
they are also throwing a certain kind of credibility to
Nader and the Greens at the same time.
Nader's appeal to the Teamsters leadership, McLarty admitted
was a political maneuver but, he said, In spite
of the fact that they [the labor bureaucracy] are a hierarchical
power, they still have influence. He continued, I
have no idea how things will play out in the long run, but for
right now they are effective in pushing the Green Party forward.
Underlying this type of crude political opportunism is a lack
of any firm foundation in theory or program. McLarty himself described
the Greens as practicing a kind of catch-as-catch-can political
strategy. But he added, I don't think that any kind
of pure theory is effective anyway.
Pragmatism, opportunism, eclecticism are held up as positive
goods. In McLarty's words: I think what is going on right
now is that the Green Party is getting stronger, and it is getting
stronger through Nader's campaign...We are doing a lot of things
without a very clear theory behind it. I think just the emergence
of a strong third party throws politics into a chaos, in which
we are not sure how things are going to sort out.
Such an unprincipled and eclectic approach to politics is characteristic
of the social layers upon which the Greens are based. The middle
layers of society exercise no real independence from the two main
classesthe working class and the capitalist classand
swing, sometimes wildly, between the two. A party based upon such
variegated and heterogeneous elements of the population is incapable
of a consistent and scientific approach to politics.
The Greens may ignore the class struggle, but the class struggle
does not ignore them. The right-wing evolution of the German Greens
demonstrates the bankruptcy of such petty-bourgeois politics.
In the fire of war and class conflict, the German Greens dutifully
defended the interests of their ruling class. If given the chance,
their American counterparts would do likewise.
See Also:
International delegates at US
Green Party convention defend Kosovo War
[11 July 2000]
Why the New York Times
wants Green Party candidate Ralph Nader out of the presidential
campaign
[3 July 2000]
US Green Party candidate Ralph
Nader courts Buchanan supporters
[27 June 2000]
On the eve of Green Party convention,
Ralph Nader appeals to Teamsters union leaders
[24 June 2000]
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