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Australian professor warns that poor will have to pay more
for drugs
By Margaret Rees
17 February 2001
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Professor David Henry, who was recently dismissed from the
Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee (PBAC), spoke to the
World Socialist Web Site about the implications of changes
being made to committee by the Australian government. He and other
former PBAC members have been highly critical of the appointment
of Pat Clear, a former drug company executive, to head the committee.
The PBAC selects drugs for listing on the Pharmaceutical Benefits
Scheme, which has kept drug prices comparatively lower than other
countries.
Henry, a professor of Clinical Pharmacology in the faculty
of Medicine and Health Sciences at the University of Newcastle
in New South Wales, was chairman of the PBAC's economic sub-committee.
Margaret Rees: Why has the government appointed Pat
Clear and dispensed with you and others on the committee?
David Henry: The government is responding to persistent
complaints from the pharmaceutical industry. The reason that the
industry people are complaining is because they aren't getting
what they want from the committee. Quite simply they want more
of their drugs on the Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme [PBS] at higher
prices. They've tried various ways to change how the committee
works. They've tried reviews, for instance the Industry Commission
review in 1997, and they haven't succeeded. So they've decided,
instead of debating and arguing the issues, to try and get rid
of the people they see as obstructing them.
MR: You've publicly opposed these changes. Why have
you done this?
DH: Because I think there is legitimate public interest
in it. Unfortunately a lot of these decisions are done confidentially
because the companies provide the information as commercial
in confidence and because the National Health Act has some
very strong secrecy clauses in it.
There are three main reasons for going public. One is legitimate
public interest if a committee charged with this sort of work
is being unduly influenced by industry. Secondly, by going public
hopefully we will make it easier for future committees to stave
off this sort of pressure. Thirdly, if the industry is allowed
to have its way here, it will mean that Australians will have
to pay more for drugs. This means that the people who are least
able to afford drugs are going to be asked to pay most, because
they have the chronic illnesses for which expensive drugs are
used.
MR: Can you explain some of the intimidatory tactics
used against you?
DH: I was threatened with a federal police inquiry.
I was also threatened as a member of the committee, in committee,
by [Health Minister] Michael Wooldridge's ex-chief of staff over
a series of articles in the Sydney Morning Herald. I've
got to say that I didn't take the threat very seriously. I was
absolutely sure that I had not broken the law and consequently
saw no reason for the police to be involved. I was accused of
leaking information but it was already in the public domain.
MR: Why are the drug companies so keen to have Pat Clear?
DH: It may not be Pat Clear himself. This is a sleeper
and it will go on in the long term. Once they've got somebody
on the committee, they will eventually telegraph information back
to the companies who are contesting decisions or even considering
taking the committee to court. The government says it wants a
less adversarial relationship between the committee and the industry
but the adversarial relationship arises every time the committee
says no.
We've been taken to federal court three times by drug companies
in the last 18 months, and we are taken as individuals, not as
a corporate entity. The members are taken to court, not the minister.
We rely on the Commonwealth indemnity for costs and legal fees,
which of course are very large. We're taking on companies that
are worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
MR: It's been suggested that the heart of these changes
is to end the subsidy of drugs through the PBS scheme? What do
you think?
DH: This government may intend to moderate the scheme,
to change it, but it wouldn't do away with subsidies altogether.
It won't admit this prior to an election, I'm sure. But in the
longer run, and if it gets back into power, I think there is an
agenda, which has been seen elsewhere in health and that is to
hive off as much as possible to the private health insurance sector.
One factor is that private health companies in this country traditionally
have not had to pay very much for drugs because the PBS has picked
it all up. Even if people are privately insured, the PBS pays
for their drugs. So private health insurance companies will have
to pick up the tab, I believe that this government expects them
to do this.
But what is more worrying is that the government may modify
the way non-privately insured patients pay for their drugs, to
make them directly carry a larger burden of the cost. It put up
the co-payment levels last weeksneaked them up very quietly
by another dollar or sowhich will impact on people who are
only just managing financially.
MR: The Doctors Reform Association regards these moves
as a step towards the dismantling of the subsidised system. What's
your comment?
DH: I think it [the changes to the committee] is part
of the undermining of Medicare. We saw that with the private health
insurance rebate where over $2 billion a year is going to prop
up a pretty inefficient private health industry. I work in a public
hospital in Newcastle just think what could have been achieved
with that money in public hospitals. So you've got to see this
move as part of the agenda to undermine Medicare. What is advanced
is the notion of mutual obligation', whatever that means.
Essentially it means that those who are least able to afford it
have to pay. You will have a mutual obligation to pay more for
your drugs so that these large companies can get higher profits.
MR: What influence have the drug companies exerted over
government policy?
DH: Huge. I've seen minutes of the meetings they've
had since 1998. They've formed an ad-hoc group called
the Pharmaceutical Industry Working Group, which comprises the
Minister for Health, the Minister for Industry and CEOs of the
major multinational companies. They meet and seem to set policies
and agenda in this country. There is no input from the advisory
committees or any other properly constituted group. I would say
that was substantial influence and that is just one group. I haven't
seen the minutes of the Bennelong group, which is the group in
the Prime Minister's electorate, but I'm sure they exist.
MR: How would you characterise the drug industry's long-term
agenda?
DH: Have a look at the industry worldwide. The multinational
drug companies are the most profitable companies on the planet
right now. Their profit margins are at least five percent more
than any other industry in the US and that includes commercial
banks and telcos. The US manufacturers are enormously profitable
businesses. They sustained high rates of growth through the 1990s
and their profits and share values reflect this. They've been
very popular among institutional and individual shareholders in
the US and in other markets. They want to maintain that growth
but they're under threat now because around the world increasingly
people can't afford drugs. Even though we've got more and more
drugs on the market, worldwide drug access is falling because
fewer and fewer people can actually afford them. So we've got
a reverse of equity, we've got inequity developing around the
world.
Up until now in the developed countries they've managed to
maintain very uncritical acceptance of their claims. They want
to discredit the Australian system and show that it hasn't worked.
They'll say that sacking of the committee is evidence that it
didn't work. But it did work, if you look at the prices we got
and the coverage.
MR: Isn't there a problem trying to defend the right
to access to necessary drugs in a committee whose guidelines include
what the industry wants?
DH: Each government in this country has a national drug
policy. There are four arms to that policy. We work under the
access arm and there is a separate arm that involves industry
policy. I would say that industry policy and health policy is
becoming confused here. I don't mind if this government has an
industry policy that favours the pharmaceutical industry as long
as it's got good reasons to do it. Our committees work under health
policy and our job was to get maximum value for drug purchases
for Australian people. They do not have a primary responsibility
to look after the interests of pharmaceutical manufacturers.
See Also:
Corporate appointee undermines Australian
drug advisory committee
[17 February 2001]
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