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Father of Australian POW denounces illegal detention at Guantanamo
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By Richard Phillips
17 April 2002
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Terry Hicks, the father of 26-year-old David Hicks currently
being held prisoner by the US military at Camp X-Ray, Guantanamo
Bay in Cuba, spoke to the World Socialist Web Site last
week about his sons detention.
David Hicks was captured by Afghanistans Northern
Alliance during fighting with Taliban forces near Kunduz and handed
over to US forces in early December. After being interrogated
by US and Australian security and military officials, he was flown
to Guantanamo Bay where he has been imprisoned without charge
since January.
The Bush administration has refused to classify Hicks or
any of the more than 300 Taliban supporters currently held in
Cuba, as prisoners of war. Instead, it has invented a new categoryunlawful
combatantsand on this basis denied the prisoners their
legal and democratic rights under the Geneva Convention. Hicks
and the other prisoners, who are being kept in individual outdoor
cages measuring 2.4 by 1.8 metres, have been subjected to systematic
interrogation and refused legal representation or access to their
families. They could face the death penalty if tried before one
of the US governments recently created military tribunals.
Normal rules of evidence do not apply in these non-jury bodies
and there is no right of appeal to any civil court.
The Howard government in Australia, despite appeals by Terry
Hicks and his lawyer Stephen Kenny during the past four months,
has supported the Bush administration and refused to take any
action to guarantee David Hicks basic rights or secure his
repatriation to Australia. Instead, federal government ministers
have endorsed the detention, and, without any evidence, publicly
declared Hicks a terrorist. The Australian media, particularly
Murdoch-owned publications, has also attempted to demonise Hicks
with sensationalist articles portraying him as a traitor and terrorist.
Terry Hicks, together with the families of two British citizensShafiq
Rasul and Asif Iqbalalso being held in Guantanamo Bay, and
lawyers from the US, Britain and Australia have filed a law suit
in a US federal court. The lawyers, who have applied for a writ
of habeas corpus, want the US Federal Court to order the release
of the three detainees from unlawful custody and grant them the
right to legal counsel in private and unmonitored discussions
with their attorneys. A ruling on the case, which was filed in
late February, is yet to be made.
Terry Hicks explained to the WSWS how he learnt of his sons
detention.
Terry Hicks: We first heard about Davids capture
from ASIO [Australian Security Intelligence Organisation] who
visited us in December. We knew David was in Afghanistan so when
ASIO arrived, our worst fear was that he was dead. When they said
David had been captured by the Northern Alliance but was fit and
well, we were relieved. But once the dust settled a bit and we
began reading the newspaper reports about what was really going
on we started worrying. Then when we saw the prison conditions
in Cuba we started to get very concerned.
Its a zoo with prisoners caged like animals. Ive
described it as a zoo but its worse really. At the zoo you
can watch the animals pacing up and down but if they dont
want to look at you at least they can go into their shelters.
David doesnt have any privacy at all. He is constantly being
watched.
Weve been told they are looking after him properly and
feeding him. But how can you believe this? We havent seen
any pictures of him yet, so how can we tell?
Richard Phillips: What did you think about the US governments
refusal to classify David as a prisoner of war or allow any legal
representation and other rights under the Geneva Convention?
TH: I was surprised but I dont think the Americans
really know what to do about David and others like him. They didnt
officially declare war on Afghanistan but said it was war on terrorism.
Their problem is they cant prove David was a terrorist or
bring him under a mercenary charge because he wasnt being
paid, either in Afghanistan or with the KLA [Kosovo Liberation
Army], and so theyve put him in limbo until they make up
their minds.
Theyve called the Taliban terrorists, but it was the
government in AfghanistanAl Qaeda is the terrorist organisation.
David was with the Taliban, not Al Qaeda, and was caught after
the US went to war against the Taliban and therefore should be
classified as a prisoner of war.
It seems that America is making up the law as they go along
or when it suits they just act outside the law. Bush introduced
a new military law last November that gives him the power to do
all sorts of things. There is the Patriot Act, which, as I understand
it, allows the government to charge anyone they think is helping
terrorists. But how do they classify a terrorist?
Im beginning to think that America is the real terrorist.
Look at what it is doing. Mr Bush has declared that the US will
go into Iraq but this is going to create real problems and could
lead to serious war, much worse than what happened in Afghanistan.
RP: Could you have imagined making this sort of statement
a year ago?
TH: No, never. In the past I would have probably just
glanced through things like this in the papers and not thought
about it too much. When it comes into your own backyard, you have
to start taking an interest and try and read between the lines.
RP: Do you have any more details about the conditions
David is being held under? Have you had any contact?
TH: Theyve held David for nearly six months and
it must be getting harder and harder on him. He is probably being
interrogated every day, or every second day or once a week or
whatever, and yet he hasnt been charged with anything. Under
the normal rules of law, if you cant charge anyone in 72
hours youve got to let them go.
The worrying thing is we dont really know whats
going on and have had no contact, apart from two letters. The
first, which came through the Red Cross, was written on January
21 but we didnt get it until the end of January or early
February. The second letter was dated January 29, postmarked February
28, and we received it on March 15. It went from Cuba to Norfolk
in Virginia and was then posted to us. Obviously he is not allowed
to tell us much. The letter did confirm receipt of the letters
we sent to him and the rest of it was mainly personal family stuff.
RP: Does he know that you have begun legal action in
the US to secure his release?
TH: We have told him we have legal representation but
have no confirmation of what he knows. It is not clear what is
happening, whether our letters are censored or whether they tell
him what to write.
RP: Can you comment on the response of the media and
the Howard government?
TH: The government has demonised David from the outset.
The Defence Minister claimed he was one of the 20 most dangerous
people in the world and other ministers have described him as
a terrorist. This is ridiculous. Where did they get this information?
They havent even spoken to him. They just swallow what the
American government tells them.
When the news first came out about David I had the media all
over me. They were shoving microphones in my face, demanding answers
to this and that and I just refused to speak to them. So they
went round to see his friends, or former friends, made a few wild
guesses or just made it up. When I did speak to the papers and
gave them information, they just misused it. Maybe if I had spoken
to them initially it might have been different, but what they
did was designed to sell newspapers and paint David as an evil
individual and show that he had to be kept in a cage with no legal
rights.
One of the things we were very unhappy about was that the newspaper
Adelaide Advertiser printed our full address. We didnt
think this was legal, but apparently there is nothing to stop
them. We had a bad phone call at about 1.30 in the morning after
that and have had a couple of crook letters.
The media deliberately misconstrue things because they want
to confuse people. But theyve got nothing on David and are
trying to cover this up. Some people accept what they read, but
I think the general public is starting to think and things are
turning around in our favour. People are getting sick of hearing
Mr Bush declare he is going to do this or blow this group up or
attack someone else. I think the Australian public are a bit more
intelligent and are not going to swallow this.
RP: Youve launched legal action in the US and
a support group has been established here to secure Davids
return to Australia. Whats happened with the case and what
support have you received?
TH: We havent heard anything back about the legal
action as yet. This is going to be difficult and could be thrown
out and wed have to make an appeal. But we have to keep
plugging away.
My workmates have been very supportive. Im tied up with
the local football club and they have been very, very good as
well. Friends, family and relatives have been excellent too and
the Fair Go For David Committee has done a lot of work to put
pressure on the government.
Weve had quite a few letters from around Australia, from
Queensland and the Northern Territory. One chap who went through
the latter part of World War II wrote and said he was very concerned
about the way David was being kept. Everyone knows this is wrong.
This was a war situation and David should be classified and kept
as a prisoner of war.
RP: Last week the Howard government said it planned
to send a delegation to Guantanamo Bay to interrogate David again.
What do you make of this?
TH: Weve heard this sort of thing before and theyve
cancelled it twice so we dont know whats going on.
Stephen Kenny, our lawyer, has written to the government to allow
us to visit David when the Australian government delegation goes
to Cuba. We are hoping to get a favourable response, but I have
my doubts. Weve written to the government so many times.
They take forever to reply and have rejected all our requests
for legal and family access. Maybe they hope we will just go away.
We are supposed to be a democracy, where everyone should have
the right to legal representation no matter what your crime.
The government has helped Australians overseas who seem to
have done things far worse than what David has been accused of.
He is an Australian citizen, we are supposed to be a democratic
country so lets extract their digit and do something about
it. This is what I have been pushing for all along. But I dont
believe they are working hard enough or theyre not interested.
RP: Why do you think theyve responded in this
way?
TH: If we knew why, we might be able to push things
along a bit. Obviously its political. Maybe Howard wants
a stronger alliance with the US and is not willing to rattle the
chains. Maybe they are worried that if they push too hard Mr Bush
will add them to the axis of evil list, like North Korea and others.
Whatever the reason, the Howard government is aiding and abetting
Davids illegal detention and Ive been saying this
all along.
The other worrying thing is the anti-terrorism legislation
the government wants to introduce. This is like the Patriot Act
in America, where people can be accused of aiding and abetting
terrorism. If they pass that here, and no one seems to be standing
up against it, Stephen Kenny, the support group or any member
of it could be charged with aiding terrorism. This is real Big
Brother is watching you and could be used to stymie what
we are trying to do.
Civil rights lawyer Stephen Kenny and Terry Hicks will be
featured speakers at a public meeting organised by the Fair Go
For David support group at the Church of Christ Hall, 69 Prospect
Road, Prospect, Adelaide, at 7.30pm on April 24.
See Also:
Australian, British and US
lawyers challenge detention of Guantanamo Bay prisoners
[11 March 2002]
Australian detainee at Guantanamo
Bay abandoned by Howard government
[8 February 2002]
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