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Britain: Firefighters speak on strike
"How do you put a price on a firefighters life?"
By our correspondent
19 November 2002
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Britains firefighters mounted their first two-day strike
last week as part a planned series of strikes against the Labour
government of Prime Minister Tony Blair. They are demanding a
40 percent pay rise to bring their annual pay up to £30,000.
The Fire Brigades Union (FBU) is in the second day of renewed
talks with the government in an attempt to resolve the dispute
before an eight-day strike due to begin Friday, November 22.
The FBU leadership is anxious to secure an acceptable compromise
proposal to offer to their members. But the government has taken
a hard-line stance with the full backing of the big business media,
who do not want a precedent to be set that breaks the low pay
awards of the past decade and more, particularly in the public
sector.
Proof that it is the government which sought the strikeand
not a supposedly hard-left leadership around FBU leader Andy Gilchristis
the revelation that the Local Authorities were prepared to offer
firefighters a 16.1 percent pay package over two years last summer,
equivalent to an annual wage of £25,000, but the government
refused to fund it.
In June 2001, a 24-page document was circulated to local government
employers proposing 16.1 percent in three stages over two years6.8
percent immediately, followed by 4.35 percent and then 4.2 percent.
The government was not prepared to pay for it. Instead it summoned
a supposedly independent review of the fire service, under Sir
George Bain, which has been used to insist on the 4 percent figure
for this year, followed by a further rise of 7 percent the next
yearbut only if a raft of productivity and restructuring
measures are also accepted.
The World Socialist Web Site spoke to two firefighters
during their two-day strike last week. Keith from Sheffield is
a firefighter with 28 years service and Brent is a station officer
who joined the service at the same time. Both participated in
the last national firefighters strike in 1977.
How does the mood with the present strike compare with that
in 1977?
Brent: The last strike was very
difficult because it was our first ever strike. We didnt
really know how to go about it. Its different this time.
Keith: In 1977 we thought it would be over before dinnertime,
but we were out for nine weeks.
Brent: This time we are set for a long strike. The mood is
different. The last strike wasnt as solid.
The news today is that the government has officially allowed
the army troops to be able to train up on 14 fully functioning
fire engines, the kind that we use every day.
Do the troops have use of these vehicles to fight fires?
Brent: No, because the ones we use are locked up behind the
picket lines.
What if the government then makes attempts to appropriate
them?
Brent: We dont own the fire engines. They are public
property owned by the local authorities. If they want to come
and get them, then they can do. What needs to be made very clear
is that we are not responsible for any consequences resulting
from the troops using them. They will be untrained in the use
of a fully operational firefighting vehicle. They need to be properly
trained.
Keith: They are opening themselves
up to being sued if anything goes wrong when they are out on the
job. It takes five years to become a qualified firefighter. To
train to use a firefighting vehicle takes 14 weeks. The government
is saying that it can train up soldiers on them in two weeks.
You just cant do it.
Brent: A sub-officer of the Retained Firefighters Union [part-time
firefighters who have a no-strike agreement] in Gloucester was
interviewed stating that it takes two weeks to train up to use
a fire engine. You may be able to familiarise yourself with firefighting
equipment in two weeks, but you cannot train up.
What is your attitude to the Fire Brigades Union?
Keith: I am quite impressed by Andy Gilchrist. Hes doing
the rounds up and down the country. I heard today that in Edinburgh
he outed the press. He didnt want them to hear his talks
with the membership.
What do you think about the comments by government ministers
that it was legitimate to ask whether or not the firefighters
strike was aiding terrorism?
Brent: I think its terrible. These ministers have to
get their facts right on these things. What evidence have they
got? The government called us criminals the other day and then
had to withdraw it. How are we criminals? What am I actually doing?
Im simply withdrawing my labour.
What do you think about Bains review on pay?
Brent: Well, we asked for consultation in May of this year
regarding our pay. They waited until October before deciding to
get something down. Thats only a month before our pay review
was due on November 7.
This is an interim report with a fuller report coming out in
December. The modernization that is in Bains
report is based on re-grading, but there is no detail in it.
At present every firefighter is fully trained to do all tasks
of the job. In America, you have firefighters doing just one task.
For example, there is a water man who is just responsible for
that. It is called specialisation. But here everyone can do all
tasks. Im confident that Keith here can do everything from
driving to operating the rescue equipment. What they want to do
essentially is abolish the boundaries between the counties so
that one fire brigade in one area can get called out to another
area. Im not against standardisation, but this review doesnt
take into account that the different brigades in the regions presently
work in different ways and have different equipment, etc.
What was gained after the last strike? What are your conditions
today?
Keith: After the strike they didnt give us money; they
increased the numbers of firefighters. In 1978 there was an influx
of recruits. They introduced four shifts instead of three. We
used to work three 9-hour shifts on days and two 15-hour shifts.
Then you had two days off and you really needed it. Today we work
two days and two nights and then get four days off and its
a lot better than the previous system.
Brent: We earn £6 an hour. This is the only job that
overtime is not allowed. Its compulsory shift work and weve
had enough.
In what way do you think the fire service has changed in
recent years?
Keith: I feel it is being run more like a business. I could
get different skills and get re-graded under the new proposals
and get some more money in the bank for myself. But it shouldnt
be like that.
Brent: I think the people in this country are entitled to a
good fire service. About our pay, the main thing we need is a
new pay formula. If I was negotiating this I would be saying,
Right now we want £30,000. How long will it take to
get us to £30,000? One month, one year? With Bain
this 4 percent deal is linked with accepting everything else in
the report, but weve already rejected 4 percent. We get
that anyway. What we want is a wage that a professional fireman
deserves and a new pay formula.
A victory for the firefighters in this dispute would strike
a blow for all those on low pay. There is a certain truth in what
Blair saidthat if the firefighters get this pay increase
then other workers would also demand it. What do you think?
Brent. Put this on your web site. The public sector is poorly
paid. We earn £6 an hour. If someone else wants to do our
job for £6 an hour they can do.
Keith: We are doing this for the younger generation. We are
not going to see the benefits now. Well maybe in our pensions,
but this is for the young generation. For a while the economic
climate has been bad so we accepted less over the last few years
with pay deals just over 1 percent. When I first started there
were 24 men on a shift, now there are just 14.
What do you think about the portrayal of firefighters in
the media? There was a comment this week by the Sun s
political editor describing a firefighters career as lucrative.
Keith: Before the strike people died in fires, but none of
that was on the news. Last night three people died in the hours
following the start of the strike and its front-page headlines.
We have got a gymnasium here and the lads play football in there
from time to time. It keeps the lads fit and is good for morale.
But if someone came in the station when they were playing, they
would think that is all a firefighter does. And that is how the
press portrays us.
What do you think about the governments role in this
dispute? It has been very confrontational right from the start,
with Blair himself stating that the government will never allow
such a pay increase.
Brent: Well, Im not surprised. Labour was in government
during the last strike. I think the government needs advice in
the right quarters. Bains review is meaningless. It should
take 12 months to do a proper review, not the five weeks it took
Bain.
What about the prime ministers statement that no
government on earth could afford to meet the firefighters
pay demand? Yet they are preparing for war against Iraq!
Brent: Well the war chest is always full. They found that money,
no problem. The MPs also voted themselves a pay rise of 40 percent.
[Deputy Prime Minister John] Prescott was at the forefront of
that.
Keith: This is an MP [Prescott] who punched a member of the
public.
Brent: And they (MPs) all backed him up. Prescott said that
he had bent over backwards to negotiate with us. Well,
I would like him to bend over forwards and to work as a fireman
on an engine for one day and get some work done. He would see
what its like and wouldnt be able to move for two
days. I could do his job for a day in parliament and take my wife
down to the hairdressers.
Prescott was saying that he got the strike ended two weeks
ago in order to continue negotiations. Well Bob Miller, a firefighter
from Leicester with 25 years service, died on that day at a factory
fire. If there had been a strike that day he would still be alive.
How do you put a price on a firefighters life?
See Also:
UK firefighters begin first nationwide
strike in 25 years
[15 November 2002]
Britain: Firefighters speak
on threatened strike
[24 September 2002]
Britain: Nationwide firefighters
strike draws closer
[5 September 2002]
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