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Sami Al-Arian and the attack on democratic rights in the US:
an interview with Laila Al-Arian
By Joseph Kay
12 April 2003
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On February 20 of this year, University of South Florida
Professor Sami Amin Al-Arian and three other men were arrested
on charges of conspiring to commit acts of terrorism. The charges
are the culmination of a decade-long slander campaign to discredit
Al-Arian. This campaign has been motivated by his outspoken criticism
of the Israeli government and the growing attack on democratic
rights in the United States, of which his confinement is one telling
example. [ See A
monstrous attack on democratic rights: US government mounts conspiracy
frame-up of Palestinian activists].
On March 12 the World
Socialist Web Site spoke to Laila Al-Arian, professor Al-Arians
daughter and a senior at Georgetown University. Since that time,
Sami Al-Arian continues to be held in solitary confinement. His
lawyers charge that he has been denied basic comforts and access
to legal counsel.
WSWS: What is the current status of your father and
what has happened over the past two-and-a-half weeks?
Laila Al-Arian: As you know, he was arrested on February
20, and since then he has been in a jail in Tampa, Florida, where
we have lived for the past 16 years. He has been on a hunger strike
since being arrested and has lost about 20 pounds. But his faith
is strong and we are confident that with enough support from the
community we can get through this.
WSWS: Could you explain the history of the case, and
the process by which he has been charged and arrested?
LA: He was first investigated around 1994-95 after Zionist
journalist or pseudo-journalist Steve Emerson and his friend in
Tampa, Michael Fechter, who writes for the Tampa Tribune,
first raised allegations of ties to terror. That was when the
government started investigating. Our home was raided in November
of 1995, I believe. Since then, the government has been trying
to come up with anything to charge him with. It is really telling
that it has taken this long to get something to indict him with.
The case is really weak, and it wasnt until after September
11 and the Patriot Act was passed that they were able to use illegal
means of obtaining foreign surveillance, which God knows where
it came from and how accurate it is.
Before that, he was an advocate for civil rights. My uncle
[Mazen Al-Najjar] was jailed under secret evidence for three years.
My father worked day and night fighting against the unconstitutional
use of secret evidence against Muslim and Arab immigrants. I think
that also made him a target, because he was so outspoken. We were
victorious in the end. There was a bill passed in the House of
Representatives called the 1999 Secret Evidence Repeal Act. It
didnt end up passing the Senate, so it was a symbolic victory
in that sense. In October of 2000, my uncle was finally released,
and the judge in that case said that the government failed to
prove that the organizations he worked with were associated with
the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, as the government was claiming.
That was also a victory.
The government was very eager to get back at us, and September
11 unfortunately gave them the opportunity because there is this
atmosphere of hysteria and fear. People who want to pass their
agendas really got an opportunity to do so.
WSWS: The act used to jail your uncle, this was the
Clinton Administrations legislation, passed after the Oklahoma
City bombing. And the journalists you mentioned, I believe they
were involved in promoting the idea that the Oklahoma City bombings
were likely the product of Muslim extremists?
LA: Yes, both of them were. Emerson was on CBS News
the next morning saying that the bombing must have been done by
Arabs, and Michael Fechter wrote articles trying to tie my father
to the Oklahoma City bombing and then the World Trade Center bombings.
They were just preposterous claims, not backed up by any evidence.
WSWS: As it turned out, the Oklahoma City bombing was
carried out by right-wing fascistic elements within the United
States. There has been no war on terrorism against
this element, in large part because they are closely allied with
high-ranking officials in the Bush administration. One can see
the same phenomenon with the anthrax investigations. Once it was
clear that it was not Arabs or Iraqis who had carried out the
attacks, once the attacks could not be employed for the purpose
of justifying war because they were carried out by individuals
either within or closely tied to the military establishment, the
investigation was dropped.
LA: And it is interesting to note that those who have
been accused of carrying out the anthrax attacks, their universities
have stood by them. On the other hand, my fathers university
has taken action against him, ignoring the fact that it is a bunch
of Republican right-wing corporate figures that are carrying out
the attack. The indictment has helped the university administration,
because they really wanted to fire my father, but they were worried
that they would be censured. It is no coincidence that Florida
Governor Jeb Bush, who appointed these corporate figures to the
board of trustees of the university, also has connections to the
Justice Department, as well as, of course, the president. It is
really not a conspiracy theory. I strongly believe that all of
these elements came into play when the indictment was handed down.
WSWS: You said that after September 11, an atmosphere
of fear and hysteria has been encouraged in order to allow certain
people to push an agenda. What is this agenda that you speak of?
LA: I think there is more than one agenda which is being
passed, but one of them is forces within the US seeking to silence
any voice that speaks about oppression of Palestinians, about
the brutality of the state of Israel. On the other hand, another
agenda that is being passed is by members of the Bush administration,
who are allied with these Zionists, because of their own right-wing
beliefs and their own Christian fundamentalism. They believe that
Jesus will only return if the Jews control the land of Israel.
The two groups have right now a very strong unholy alliance. There
are people in the administration who look at all Muslims as the
enemy. They say that they are not at war with Islam, but I dont
believe it. Part of their mission is to convert people and Islam
is a fast-growing religion.
Part of the attack on Muslims, in particular, is that the forces
carrying out the attack always need an enemy. It was communists
before Muslims; it was Jews in the past, Catholics, African-Americans.
WSWS: Do you feel the preparations for war in Iraq play
into this?
LA: Definitely. I think that it is all connected. The
indictment came at the onset of the war drive, and Ashcroft is
trying to give the message that here we are catching these terrorists
and we need to catch the big bad terrorist Saddam Hussein. The
timing definitely should be questioned. Now they are not even
distinguishing which alleged terrorist is being caught. How many
people from Al Queda have actually been caught? I think they are
going after the wrong people. They are going after the people
that they truly need to ally with in order to tell the Muslim
people that we are not against Muslims in general.
WSWS: You said in an interview in the Michigan Daily,
It is really sad because the ideals that this nation was
founded on are slowly being shelved in the name of national security.
Later you say that the US is looking a lot more like a police
state than a democracy. We have talked a bit about the attack
on democratic rights in the United States. Why do you think these
processes are taking place?
LA: I think that people like John Ashcroft want to silence
any voice that doesnt agree with theirs. They want democracy
only if it means that everyone agrees with their line of thinking.
It is not only Muslims that are being targeted. Its antiwar
activists; its secular or Christian pro-Palestinian activists.
I think that we are turning into a fascist regime. All these things
going on now, and especially the vast extension of federal powers,
indicate this. Even on the university campus, they are now asking
campus police to spy on international students, to spy on anyone
who may be questionable, without any evidence. It is all very
unconstitutional and contrary to what has always been taught about
America being the land of the free and a place where we have certain
rights. People like John Ashcroft have always wanted to pass this
agenda, and they have only been able to do so recently, because
of this atmosphere now.
WSWS: Do you see any hope for the defense of democratic
rights?
LA: I think it has to come from the masses. People have
to realize the Justice Department does not have our rights in
mind, our best interests in mind. It has to come from a grassroots
effort. We need to lobby our representatives to not pass the Paatroit
Act II, which threatens to take away even more of our civil liberties.
Not only lobbying, but supporting those who have been detained
by these unconstitutional polices, people like my father, whether
in the media or through financial support. When the truth is on
your side, you are confident that at least that will help.
WSWS: You speak of lobbying congress. The Secret Evidence
Act that was used against your uncle and father was passed under
the Clinton administration, and the Patriot Act was passed with
the overwhelming support of both political parties.
LA: I think that happened because it was immediately
after the attacks of September 11, and I am very skeptical as
to how many people actually read the Patriot Act. I am sure that
if these representatives read it today they would be very shocked
at what they voted for.
WSWS: I would disagree with you on this point. I think,
in general, the people who voted for these measures knew what
was happening, but that there is really no constituency within
the political establishment for the defense of the most basic
democratic rights. The record of the Democratic Party demonstrates
this, going back to the impeachment crisis, where there was really
no serious opposition within the party to what amounted to an
attempt at a political coup by the Republican right. Then the
2000 election, when the opposition to the Democratic Party to
the stolen election was virtually nonexistent. And then going
through its record over the past couple years, during the so-called
war on terrorism.
LA: Yes, well I wouldnt really rely on any specific
party to take up the fight for civil liberties. We have obviously
found more support within the Democratic Party than the Republican,
but there were very good representatives within the Republican
Party. I would look at it more on an individual basis. But I definitely
believe that the movement has to come from the people. I wouldnt
rely on the government.
WSWS: What do you think are the causes of the war in
Iraq?
LA: I think the war is about President Bush finishing
what his father started. It is about oil and it is about money.
It is about control in the region by occupying Iraq. It is about
instilling fear in the hearts of all the Arab countries surrounding
Iraq, in order to bring them to their knees. This morning I saw
a report on what they called the mother of all bombs.
I find it disgusting that we are using all these scare tactics.
No Arab or Muslim will come to the defense of Saddam Hussein.
We all think that he is a horrible dictator who has done so much
to hurt his own people. But at the same time, he has not posed
any threat to the United States. The attempt to connect Hussein
and Al Qaeda is completely ridiculous. The international community
is against this war and the majority of Americans are against
this war, because we can see through President Bush and we know
the real reason he is doing this is to assert control and get
oil. The people who will suffer most are the Iraqi civilians,
who have been living in such shambles, enduring sanctions for
the past 12 years.
WSWS: Prime Minister Sharon has formed an extreme right-wing
government in Israel including parties that advocate the expulsion
of all Palestinians. How do you think the war will affect the
Palestinian population?
LA: I wouldnt be surprised if when the war starts
Sharon has a mass genocide or starts expelling Palestinians by
the thousands. It is really a scary thought. Israel has been very
successful in convincing at least America that its war on terrorism
is similar to the one here. Of course that is ridiculous. But
when the war starts, Israel can very well use the line that what
they are doing is similar to the war in Iraq, that they are trying
to liberate their people or are trying to get rid of terrorist
elements.
See Also:
A monstrous attack on democratic
rights
US government mounts conspiracy frame-up of Palestinian activists
[22 February 2003]
Palestinian-American
professors victimized: An attack on academic freedom and free
speech
[14 September 2002]
Palestinian professor victimized
in Florida
[6 February 2002]
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