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Sydney Film Festival
Blind Shaft director speaks about filmmaking in China
Part 2
By John Chan
18 July 2003
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One of the more impressive
contemporary works screened at this years festival was Blind
Shaft, a first-time feature written and directed by 34-year-old
Chinese director Li Yang. The film has won awards at the Berlin,
Buenos Aires and Hong Kong international film festivals.
Previously reviewed by the World Socialist Web Site (See:
Buenos Aires 5th International
Festival of Independent CinemaThe two paths), the film
examines the lives of two itinerant coal miners in northern China.
The men have been so brutalised by the all-pervasive poverty and
conditions in the mining industry that they earn money by organising
fatal accidents to kill individual workmates, whom they claim
are relatives. The two men are paid compensation and hush money
by the mine owners over the deaths. They move on to the next coal
mine.
No film has so graphically exposed the dangerous and de-humanising
character of coal mining in China, an industry that claims the
lives of thousands each year in gas explosions, roof collapses
and mine floods. According to official figures, over 3,300 miners
were killed in the first six months of 2002. Unofficial estimates
claim that up to 7,000 are killed per year in fatal accidents.
Not surprisingly, Yangs film has been banned by the Beijing
government whose policies are responsible for the horrendous conditions
in Chinese mines. While Li Yang says he is not political,
Blind Shaft constitutes a powerful indictment of the Stalinist
regime. He spoke with the WSWS in Sydney after a screening his
film.
John Chan: First, let me say that I was very impressed
by your film. There are so few movies from China and internationally
that deal with the social conditions confronting ordinary people.
Your film is based on Liu Qingbangs novel Shen Mu.
Why did you choose this book?
Li Yang: I wanted to make a film about China and read
many novels and other material. I chose Liu Qingbangs novel,
though, because it moved me deeply. His stories about the lives
of modern grassroots Chinese are very good. Id returned
to China after being away for more than a decade and had other
feelings about the western world or what we called capitalism
and how it compared to Chinas developing market economy.
I also had certain concerns about the high rate of economic growth
and the situation facing ordinary people. Perhaps all these things
shocked me.
JC: Could you explain more about the novel? Is it popular
in China?
LY: The novel won the Laoshe Literature Prize in 2002,
which is one of the highest literature awards in China for a medium-sized
novel. Although a work of fiction it is based on a true story.
Liu Qingbang has deep insights into life and is very familiar
with the issues facing ordinary people. Precisely because he deals
with real living figures, it moved me deeply.
JC: Your film has been banned, but why didnt the
government crack down on the novel?
LY: It is quite unusual in China. Certain aspects of
Chinese politics are strange and many things dont follow
homogenous standards. It is defined as One Country, Two
Systems but it really is one country with several
systems. Every department seems to have its own rules and
it often happens that things that can be reported on television
cannot be created as dramas, and some things that can be turned
into dramas cannot be made into films. Music and painting are
given more free expression.
I dont actually understand how it works, but I can say
that the Chinese Film Bureau is one of the most conservative of
the artistic institutions. They probably heavily restrict films
because they think movies can become a means of propaganda, instead
of entertainment and artistic expression.
JC: Your film shows the dangerous situation facing coal
miners. Were you shocked by these conditions?
LY: Yes, I was shocked. But the conditions shown in
my movie are not bad compared to other mines. There are much worse
ones than this.
The focus of my film, however, was not simply to show the brutal
situation in which the miners live, but to express the struggle,
conflicts and contradictions in their lives. I wanted to portray
how human nature degenerates under the attraction of money, and
the good side of humanity in this transitional periodhow
good confronts evil.
This is an internal process. As you saw in the film one of
the miners didnt want to kill the young boy but was trying
to earn money for his own family. As his fellow workmate said:
If you dont kill him, your kids will be like him and
have to work. This was a difficult choice.
Another thing that shocked me was that the miners seemed to
be comfortable with the conditions in which they worked. Perhaps
they, like many Chinese, were optimistic and hoped that things
would get better in the future. They werent insensitive
to their own hardship, but without these jobs they had nothing.
Their optimism about life is something I didnt expect. So
in the film you also see them enjoying lifejoking in the
shower, playing cards and drinking.
JC: Do you think the Chinese government banned your
film because it revealed these harsh conditions?
LY: Yes, probably, but my film isnt just about
one theme. It deals with modern lives, the worship of money and
several other issues. So I dont know exactly why they targeted
it specifically.
JC: At last nights screening you said that the
mine used in the film belonged to a friend.
LY: My friends friend. But I knew the owners well.
JC: Could you explain the conditions?
LY: There are many deadly small mines in China, but
they are not all illegal, many of them have legal documents and
procedures. Through the bribery of local officials, the mine owners
can get official approval for their operations, even though the
safety measures are far below standard. I wanted to show that
there are many money-power deals and thats why the mine
owners are afraid to report any deadly accidents. If the accidents
are brought to light then it means that it is not just one persons
responsibility.
JC: Where did you shoot your films?
LY: In Hebei, Shanxi and Henan [provinces].
JC: There is another element of the movie concerning
prostitutes. Could you elaborate on this?
LY: This is part of real life for these people. The
two miners kill in order to earn money and use some of this for
enjoyment. Their peasant conception of enjoyment, however, is
somewhat limited and they are satisfied with the cheap prostitutes
in the local towns. I didnt want to exaggerate anything,
it was simply part of their lives.
JC: You include one scene showing the prostitutes at
the post office sending money back home.
LY: Thats right. These are ordinary people trying
to earn a living and support their families.
JC: At the question and answer session after the screening
last night someone suggested that your story was fake?
LY: This comment is not unusual. I lived outside China
for many years and understand the psychology of overseas Chinese
who have been away for too long and are not familiar with contemporary
conditions. They might also think that the film was made to blacken
Chinas image. The country is transforming but their ideas
remain fixed to the time when they left.
Ive returned to China several times over the years and
my knowledge is closer to reality. I can say that all the details
and pictures in my movie are fully real and that you can find
this sort of situation everywhere in China.
JC: There is a scene in the movie where the two miners
go to a karaoke bar and at one point sing a song, Long Live
Socialism with two prostitutes. Could you comment on this?
LY: The song has no particular significance, it simply
represents another aspect of life for these miners. They were
given a communist education and sang this song because it was
the only one they knew. They couldnt sing Deng Lijun [Taiwanese
pop singer in 1970s and 80s]. The script depended not on my will,
but on the need to accurately represent the thinking and behavior
of these characters.
JC: What are conditions like for filmmakers in China?
LY: Chinas market reform has changed the [state-owned]
studios and they no longer function as before. In the past, films
could only be made by these studios. Today any company can make
movies. So the market system has made it more open and the studios
have lost their dictatorial authority.
This is a good thing. But in China there are political as well
as economic pressures. Filmmakers have to earn money while at
the same time they cannot make anything that will irritate the
governmentotherwise they face heavy fines. These conditions
mean that Chinese filmmakers must be very self-disciplined.
JC: In the 1980s Zhang Yimao and other Fifth Generation
filmmakers made movies that conflicted with the government. Their
latest films seem more conservative. Could you comment on this?
LY: They must have their own reasons for these films
and their current attitudes. It was normal that the Fifth Generation
filmmakers, and even some commercial movies, came into conflict
with the government at that time. Every artist develops their
own individual style and while I have my own methods I hope there
will be many filmmaking styles develop in China, not just the
sort of movie I have made. If this occurs, there will be a wide
market for films.
JC: What impact will the government ban of Blind
Shaft have on your career? Did you realise what would happen
before you began?
LY: Yes, Id thought about it. I could have made
some kind of compromise and made a film within the system, or
made something that only half satisfied my artistic conscience.
At this moment, however, I believe that what I did is correct.
I didnt curse or shame this or that regime or political
party but simply revealed some aspects of real life. Time and
history will test out this film.
Although the film has been banned, the situation is better
than I expected. At least Im still allowed to return to
China occasionally, my life hasnt been physically threatened
and, at least for now, Im free from jail. Maybe this is
an expression of the Chinese governments openness and enlightenment.
The situation is new to me, but I hope that it becomes more open
and allows more freedom. Of course, it cant be achieved
in one day in such a vast country, so we will have to wait patiently.
JC: I read that you were away from China for 14 years.
Did you leave after the Tienanmen Square protests in 1989? What
do you think about these events?
LY: I left China in 1987 and only learnt about the June
4th protests through the foreign media. Ive made no special
study about these events, but only heard one-sided reports or
various stories from some people, and still have no real idea
of what took place. The development of this sort of student movement
was inevitable and has pushed forward some policy changes.
JC: How did this impact on filmmakers?
LY: I dont think there was any direct impact on
filmmakers but it did provide a thinking space on everything.
This was the good side of it I think. Thats my basic approach.
JC: But the Chinese government imposed even greater
restrictions on freedom of expression in response to the 1989
protests.
LY: I dont know about this because Im not
involved in politics. Whether the government becomes more liberal
or more authoritarian Im not sure. From my personal point
of view, I dont feel that it has become more authoritarian.
On the contrary, I believe they thought through these things and
have learnt how to handle this type of event in a better manner.
So I dont think there is less freedom. There are many
jokes circulating around the Internet about some Chinese government
leaders, and I talked about politics when I was in China and no
one was arrested. At least my life wasnt threatened when
I made this film. Of course, I knew that they were going to trouble
me, but it isnt like the past. If you had made a documentary
film about China at that time you would have been accused of being
a spy and expelled from the country. From my personal point of
view, there seems to be far greater freedom.
JC: I cant agree with you on this. Since you first
left China, a huge social gap has developed between the rich and
poor. Did you notice this and do you have any comment?
LY: This isnt just a Chinese problem but is common
wherever there is rapid economic development, such as in Taiwan,
Germany and the US. These issues were shown in the American films
of the 1940s. In fact, it is a common problem of all humanity.
Mans desire for money and other attractions is boundless
and this is how he loses his humanity.
My film is set in China but the story could have occurred in
Germany, the US or in Australia. I made it in China simply because
I am Chinese and familiar with the country. The basic theme is
universal. It was equally brutal in the early days of Australia
when the Aborigines were expelled to remote areas. I think there
was a recent film on this chapter of history. So I think it is
a common issue of humanity. Man must face this reality and discover
how to eliminate these kinds of painful experiences.
JC: One last question. Whats your next project?
LY: I have many ideas but filmmaking is expensive work
and so it depends on what my investors favour. Up to now I havent
decided.
See Also:
Chinas coal
mining deaths spiral
[3 August 2002]
Films from Taiwan
and China
[2 October 1999]
Sydney Film FestivalPart 1
Classic films a festival highlight
[7 July 2003]
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