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Father of Guantanamo Bay prisoner says son has been abused
By Richard Phillips
21 May 2004
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Australian lawyer Stephen Kenny and Terry Hicks, the father
of 28-year-old David Hicks, one of two Australians incarcerated
in Guantanamo Bay, have accused the US military of torturing detainees
in the prison camp. The allegations were made at a press conference
last week in Australia, after former British prisoners issued
an open letter to the US government detailing abuse of prisoners
at Guantanamo Bay.
David
Hicks was captured in Afghanistan by Northern Alliance forces
in early December 2001 just after the Bush administration began
its military attack on the country. Detained for 10 days, he was
then handed over to the US military and transferred to Guantanamo
Bay. Like fellow Australian Mamdouh Habib, 48, also imprisoned
at Guantanamo Bay, Hicks has been held incommunicado without charge
for almost two-and-a-half years.
The Howard government has actively endorsed this blatant contravention
of the Geneva Conventions, declaring Hicks to be a member of Al
Qaeda and claiming that his illegal detention and brutal treatment
is humane.
Terry Hicks spoke with the World Socialist Web Site
last week, commenting on the abuse of his son and the escalating
revelations about US torture of Iraqi prisoners. His remarks were
made before new information came to light in the last two days
about the torture of Mamdouh Habib.
Richard Phillips: Can you explain what you know
about the torture of your son?
Terry Hicks: Unfortunately I cant tell
you all the details because the US has only allowed Stephen Kenny
to visit David and act as his lawyer in the military trial, whenever
that is, on the proviso that he does not publicly reveal conditions
inside Guantanamo Bay. But I can say that in 2002 David complained
to the Red Cross about his treatment. The Red Cross will have
reported this to US authorities and we believe that the Australian
government would have been told.
Were demanding the Howard government make this information
available to Stephen Kenny so that he can use it as part of Davids
defense case. Theyve told us nothing and keep saying that
he is being treated well. But if he is being treated so well why
dont they release the material?
Other information weve asked from the Howard government
has been denied to us. The government claims that its a
security risk to give the material to Stephen Kenny. This is ridiculous
and ignores the fact that he has been already been given a security
clearance by the US government.
At the moment David is in Camp Echo and has been there for
12 months. He is segregated from all other prisoners, the cells
are smaller and the Camp Delta stress and duress methods
are still used. There is no sunlightthe lights are always
onand there is constant loud music. Interrogations can take
place at any time.
Davids cell in Camp Delta was about seven feet by nine
feet; in Camp Echo its half or three-quarters that size,
with just enough room for a bed, a sink and toilet. In Camp Delta
he was able to communicate with prisoners in adjoining cells,
in Camp Echo he is completely isolated. The cells are painted
white and they dont see anyone, apart from their own personal
guard, who stands in front of the door, and the interrogators.
RP: Late last year he was allowed to phone you. Have
you been able to speak with him again?
TH: No. Major Mori [US military defense lawyer] has
been trying to organize something but we havent heard anything
yet. We had a few letters and there have been some messages via
Major Mori, but thats it.
RP: The Howard government maintains that David is being
treated humanely in Guantanamo Bay.
TH: This is a load of rubbish. They know whats
really going on there and it has nothing to do with humane treatment.
If conditions are so good there then why dont Howard, Downer
and some of these people get off their fat behinds and spend a
couple of weeks in one of the cells? Of course they dont
want to go near the place. They want to keep their eyes closed
and say everything is OK.
Guantanamo Bay violates the Geneva Conventions and the Howard
government is in breach of Australian law over their support for
the US treatment of Australians there and should be taken to task
over it. Davids complaints about his treatment have fallen
on deaf ears because the Howard government has no concern about
basic democratic rights.
RP: Last year the Howard government blocked Freedom
of Information requests for the release of correspondence between
the US and Australian governments on Davids detention.
TH: Yes, theyve done everything possible to stop
this getting out. I believe this suppressed material tells the
real story. When David was first arrested the US contacted the
Australian government and told them how it would be handled. The
Australian newspaper tried to get these documents but the
government shut the doors. Theyve put it on the secret,
secret list and no doubt want it to be locked away from public
view for decades. What are they hiding? What are they afraid of?
RP: Can you comment on the US Army treatment of prisoners
in Iraq? Were you shocked by these revelations?
TH: No, it didnt surprise me at all, either the
treatment of prisoners or the government response. Ive gone
over and over this in my mind for the last two years and conditioned
myself to the fact that David could be treated in this way. Obviously
the US military prison system is not a place where they hand out
lollies, people are going to get knocked around and you worry
about it all the time.
I also wonder about Mamdouh Habib. He was picked up in Pakistan
and the Americans then sent him to Egypt for interrogation before
he went to Guantanamo Bay. God only knows what happened to him
there. It was probably even worse than what has happened in Iraq.
Its incredible this has been allowed to go on.
My biggest worry was David might end up in this sort of situation.
I suppose we still really dont know because this may have
already happened to him and been kept a secret. The US has been
shipping people to other countries to do their torturing and interrogation
for them long before Guantanamo Bay was established.
RP: The Bush administration claims that the torture
and abuse is restricted to a few bad apples in the lower ranks.
TH: This is nonsense. It cant be just blamed on
the guards; its a directive from higher up. And there are
hundreds of these pictures and more to come. How does this happen
if it wasnt encouraged from the top?
They can talk about bad apples all they like, the problem is
that the entire tree is rotten. Anyone who studies Donald Rumsfelds
history and background soon realizes that he is not a very nice
person.
President Bush makes me laugh. Last week he declared that the
prisoner abuse in Iraq was a terrible thing but then said that
Rumsfeld, the man ultimately responsible for all this brutality,
was doing a wonderful job. This would be like me shooting my wife
and then being told by the prime minister that it was bad but
Im doing a great job.
At one point Rumsfeld declared it was time to take the gloves
off in the war against terror. In other words, anything would
be allowed. And listening to the arrested MPs, they wouldnt
have enough brains to invent these torturesthey were given
the go-ahead from above. They all come from poor backgrounds and
have joined the army to get an income. Desperate people like this
cant afford to disobey orders and get shot out of the service
with no other prospects.
These methods started after General Miller went to Iraq. Obviously
there were other people in charge of the prisons in Iraq but he
was sent over there to beef things up. He is an arrogant pig of
man and somebody you wouldnt trust. When Curtis [Levy, filmmaker]
asked him on camera about David, his reply was ask the Australian
government. He knew darn well that the Howard government
was backing the US all the way and wouldnt say anything
to contradict Bush.
Just think about itif you and I kept someone in a cage
for two-and-a-half years and the government found out we would
jailed for it; wed be in a cage. Yet as far as the Australian
government is concerned, the White House can do it and its
OK.
RP: Whats been the response to The President
versus David Hicks, the documentary?
TH: I must admit I was a little bit worried before it
came out, but the response was absolutely brilliant. There were
accolades coming in from everywhere. Its been shown in Canada,
where it was well received, and I believe it is screening in the
US in October. Lots of people have stopped Beverly and I and explained
how the film opened up their minds. They began to realise the
real truth about David and have begun to think about what this
all means.
RP: Whats the next step in the campaign for Davids
release?
TH: The elections are coming up soon and unless we starting
pushing harder, nothing is going to happen. We know the public
have many questions about this. Lots of people are concerned about
this and our support is growing all the time.
The Howard government wants to introduce laws stopping people
like David writing books about their experiences. This is wrong.
David had nothing to do with September 11 and other terrorist
acts and if he ever returns to Australia theyre depriving
him of the chance to earn an income. Do they want him to go on
the dole? This is straight-out censorship and reminded me of that
book Fahrenheit 451, where the government tries to burn
all literature it disagrees with.
At the end of the day, Howard, Hill, Ruddock and Downer should
be facing court over what they have done. They are watching the
US army hold and torture people without charge and in violation
of their basic rights. The Howard government is a party to these
violations of human rights and should be prosecuted.
See Also:
An antidote to government
lies about David Hicks
The President versus David Hicks, directed by Curtis Levy and
Bentley Dean
[15 March 2004]
Guantanamo Bay detainees
family speaks with WSWS
Why isnt the US military up on trial for terrorism?
[8 October 2003]
Father of Australian
Guantanamo prisoner speaks to WSWS
Howard is clutching at straws, but theyre getting
shorter
[12 August 2003]
Release David Hicks
and all Guantanamo Bay detainees
[15 July 2003]
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