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Amnesty International refuses to retract torture charges against
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By Barry Grey
8 June 2005
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In the face of denunciations and slanders from top Bush administration
officials, Amnesty International has refused to back down on charges
of US-sanctioned torture in its annual report for 2004, issued
May 25.
At a press conference to release the report, Irene Khan, the
secretary general of the London-based human rights organization,
denounced the Bush administration for authorizing interrogation
techniques that violated the UN Convention Against Torture.
Khan singled out the US prison camp at Guantánamo Bay,
Cuba, for condemnation and noted that it is but one in a network
of prison camps, some of them at secret locations, set up by the
US under the cover of its war on terrorism.
Calling Guantánamo the gulag of our time,
she denounced the US government for opposing any independent investigation
and demanded that the facility be closed down.
William Schulz, the executive director of Amnesty International
USA, named US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney
General Alberto Gonzales as apparent high-level architects
of torture and warned that they and other top administration
officials should think twice about vacationing outside the US,
lest they find themselves under arrest as Augusto Pinochet
famously did in London in 1998.
Amnestys chargesmassively substantiated in the
infamous photos from Abu Ghraib prison, ongoing probes into the
abuse and murder of alleged terrorists held in American-run prisons
in Iraq and Afghanistan, documented reports of detainees rendered
to countries notorious for practicing torture, and documents from
the Pentagon and the White House legal counsels office sanctioning
brutal interrogation methods defined by international law as tortureevoked
a hysterical response from the Bush administration and most of
the US media.
They seized on the gulag analogy in an effort to
discredit Amnesty for making supposedly irresponsible and outlandish
accusations. At a press conference last week, Bush called Amnestys
allegations absurd and attributed them to forces that
hate the United States. Vice President Dick Cheney
said he was offended that Amnesty should suggest that
somehow the United States is a violator of human rights
(!) Rumsfeld called Amnestys statements reprehensible.
In the face of this broadside, Amnesty officials have remained
firm. Last Friday, Kate Gilmore, the groups executive deputy
secretary general, brushed aside Washingtons attacks and
said the term gulag to describe Guantánamo
had been chosen deliberately. The New York Times on Saturday
reported a telephone interview conducted the previous day with
Gilmore, who said the Bush administrations response was
typical of a government on the defensive, and, according
to the Times, drew parallels to the reactions of
the former Soviet Union, Libya and Iran under Ayatollah Khomeini,
when those governments were accused of human rights abuses.
In an extraordinary interview broadcast June 5 on Fox
News Sunday, Amnesty USA head Schulz fended off a barrage
of hostile questions from the host, Chris Wallace, and reiterated
his organizations charges against the US government. Even
by the standards of Rupert Murdochs Fox News channel, which
routinely seeks to bully and intimidate guests who are critical
of the Bush administration, Wallaces demeanor and tactics
were provocative. The interviewer barely made a pretense of impartiality
in attempting to carry out his assignment of discrediting the
Amnesty official.
In the end, Schulz succeeded in making the case that the United
States is guilty of gross violations of international laws on
torture, and of blocking any independent investigation into its
crimes. He effectively made use of Wallaces own acknowledgement
of documented interrogation methods at Guantánamo and other
US-run prisons to back his accusations.
Fox Newss Wallace set the tone for the interview by prefacing
a clip of Irene Khan calling Guantánamo the gulag
of our times with the jibe: Lets start with
the rhetoric.
Then came the following exchange:
Wallace: Mr. Schulz, the Soviet gulag was a system of
slave labor camps that went on for more than 30 years. More than
1.6 million deaths were documented. Whatever has happened at Guantánamo,
do you stand by the comparison to the Soviet gulag?
Schulz: Well, Chris, clearly this is not an exact or
literal analogy. And the secretary general has acknowledged that...in
size and duration, there are not similarities between US detention
facilities and the gulag. People are not being starved in those
facilities. They are not being subjected to forced labor.
But there are some similarities. The United States is
maintaining an archipelago of prisons around the world, many of
them secret prisons into which people are being literally disappearedheld
in indefinite incommunicado detention without access to lawyers
or a judicial system or to their families. And in some case, at
least, we know they are being mistreated, abused, tortured and
even killed. And those are similar at least in character if not
in size to what happened in the gulag and in many other prison
systems in world history.
Wallace responded with a journalistic trick, based on the White
Houses unilateral declaration of a war on terrornever
ratified by Congressof indefinite duration and embracing
the entire globe.
Wallace: ...in the case of Guantánamo and the
other US detention facilities, theyre taking people off
the battlefield in the middle of the war on terror. In the case
of the Soviet gulag, they were taking millions of their own people
whose only crime was that they wanted to practice political dissent
or their own religion. Do you see a moral equivalency here?
Schulz: Well, of courseheres part of the
problem, Chrisbecause those who have been detained, not
just at Guantánamo Bay but at other detention facilities
around the world, have not been permitted to state the cases in
their own defense; have not been permitted access to lawyers.
We dont know for sure whether the assumption that youve
just made is accurate.
We do know that at least some of the 200-some prisoners
who have been released from Guantánamo Bay have made pretty
persuasive cases that they were imprisoned because they were enemies
of the Northern Alliance, for example, in Afghanistan, or that
they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. So the
question is: How did they get there in the first place? And ought
they not have an opportunity to at least make their case for their
potential freedom?
At this point, Wallace decided to change the subject. He cited
Schulzs reference to Rumsfeld and Gonzales as torture
architects and the Amnesty officials allusion to the
imprisonment of Pinochet, and asked: Do you stand by the
comparison of Donald Rumsfeld and Alberto Gonzales to a brutal
dictator?
Schulz responded by pointing out that any party to the Geneva
Conventions or the Convention Against Torture is obligated
under international law to investigate those who are alleged to
be involved with the formulation of a policy of torture or with
its carrying out.
He continued: All we are saying is that the United States
should be the one that should investigate those who are alleged
at least to be architects of torture, not just the foot soldiers
who may have inflicted the torture directly, but those who authorized
it or encouraged it or provided rationales for it or, in the case
of Rumsfeld, provided the exact rules, 27 of them in fact, for
interrogation, some of which do constitute torture or cruel, inhumane
treatment.
This was succeeded by the following exchange:
Wallace: Now, Secretary Rumsfeld did, we believe, approve
putting prisoners in stress positions for prolonged periods of
time, stripping them naked and even using dogs to frighten them.
Mr. Schulz, do you have any evidence whatsoever that he ever approved
beating of prisoners, ever approved starving of prisoners, the
kind of things we normally [sic!] think of as torture?
Schulz: It would be fascinating to find out. I have no
idea...
Wallace: Well, wait a minute. When you say fascinating
to find out, you mean you dont...
Schulz: But I do know that what youve just described,
the use of dogs, stress positions, that constitutes a violation
of the Convention Against Torture. That in and of itself is a
clear violation.
Wallace tried again to use the ploy of substituting his (and
the US governments) arbitrary and narrow definition of torture
to confuse and ensnare his guestwith similar results.
Wallace: If I may repeat, sir, do you have any evidence
that he ever approved beating any prisoners or starving any prisoners,
the kinds of things we think of as torture?
Schulz: Amnesty International has never accused him of
approving starving of prisoners.... I said that Secretary Rumsfeld
authorizedand you just listed some of themhe authorized
behaviors on the part of interrogators that we believe are in
violation of the Convention Against Torture. In fact, his own
military lawyers required him to rescind four of the 27 interrogatory
rules that he provided.
At this point, Wallace tried a new tack. He cited the Pentagons
own internal investigations to claim that only 10 cases of detainee
abuse have been confirmed at Guantánamo.
Schulz replied: You just said according to the Pentagon.
And the Pentagon and the US government have systematically precluded
independent human rights groups from getting that answered.
Now, what we do know is that FBI agents themselves raised
concerns about people being held in stress positions for up to
24 hours. What we do know is that a Kentucky National Guardsman
testified to prisoners having their heads slammed against the
wall. What we do know is that the International Red Cross protested
prolonged sleep deprivation there.
Now, we dont know the full extent of the mistreatment
there. We know that in other US detention facilities, there has
been profound mistreatment, including 27 homicides ruled by medical
examiners to be inflicted homicides.
When Wallace retorted, I asked you whether the ICRC [International
Committee of the Red Cross] has been allowed access to every place
from Abu Ghraib to Guantánamo Bay, and the answer is yes,
correct? Schulz responded:
Oh, Chris, I have no idea whether the Red Cross has been
given access to the secret detention facilities that the US is
maintaining. Have they been given access to the Syrian prisoners
and the prisons where the United States is rendering prisoners?
I have absolutely no idea, and I suggest that you dont either.
I think we dont know.
But what we do know is that in Guantánamo Bay,
the Red Cross broke its long tradition of silence and denounced
the United States for keeping prisoners incommunicado, indefinite
detention.
Exasperated, Wallace switched tracks again, citing Amnestys
charge of atrocious human rights violations and demanding,
Where do you fit into that equation the liberation of 50
million people from oppressive regimes?
Schulz replied: These are entirely different questions....
Amnesty tries to hold one plumb-line universal standard to every
government: to Chile, to Cuba, to North Korea, to Chinaevery
government.
And the United States applauds Amnesty when we criticize
Cuba and North Korea and China. Indeed, thats Secretary
Rumsfeld, who just called us reprehensible. That is the same person
who quoted Amnesty regularly in the run-up to the Iraq war when
we reported for 20 years on Saddam Husseins violationsyears
during which Rumsfeld himself was courting Hussein for the US
government.
All else having failed, Wallace resorted to the standby tactic
of US talk show hosts in general, and Fox News in particular:
the smear. He noted that Schulz had contributed financially to
the campaigns of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry
and other Democrats, implying that his charges were motivated
by partisan politics.
This too fell flat, as Schulz pointed out that the research
conducted by Amnesty and the organizations policies are
set by its international office in London, not by its US branch.
He then made a telling point:
And thats why I pointed out that the comment about
the gulag came out of Amnesty in London. And whether the Americans
like it or not, it does reflect how the more than 2 million Amnesty
members in a hundred countries around the world and, indeed, the
vast majority of those countries feel about the United States
detention policy.
When, in conclusion, Wallace asked: Is it possible, sir,
that by excessive rhetoric or by your political links, that you
have hurt, not helped, your cause? Schulz once again turned
the tables on his inquisitor:
Chris, I dont think Id be on this station,
on this program today with you if Amnesty hadnt said what
it said and President Bush and his colleagues hadnt responded
as they did. If I had come to you two weeks ago and said, Chris,
Id like to go on Fox with you just to talk about US detention
policies at Guantánamo and elsewhere, I suspect you
wouldnt have given me an invitation.
While Amnestys charges have sparked an outpouring of
bile from the US government and its defenders, the organizations
frank assessment and the defamatory response from Washington have
struck a chord among ordinary people in the US and around the
world. The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing Schulz,
that donations have quintupled and new memberships have doubled
in the week since the report was issued.
See Also:
Amnesty International report
denounces US abuses of human rights
[28 May 2005]
US press takes umbrage at
Amnestys gulag charge
[28 May 2005]
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