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Anger, resentment and discontent in Australian state election
By our reporters
27 March 2007
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The WSWS interviewed voters at polling booths in three electorates
for the New South Wales state election last Saturday March 24.
The overwhelming sentiments in the working class areas of Heffron,
Marrickville and Newcastle were hostility to both major partiesLiberal/National
and Laboralong with deep-going concerns about the general
state of the world, the eruption of war, environmental crises
and deteriorating social services.
While this was a state election, voters were quick to voice
their opposition to the federal coalition government of Prime
Minister John Howard, particularly over its participation in the
war in Iraq, its support for the five-year detention of Australian
citizen David Hicks in Guantánamo Bay by the Bush administration,
its draconian anti-terrorism laws and its WorkChoices industrial
legislation.
There was general disgust at the state of health, education
and transport in New South Wales, and most people who voted Labor
did so out of fear that a state coalition government would be
even worse.
Others said they voted for the Greens in order to register
their opposition to both major parties. In general, however, they
had little conviction that the Greens offered any real alternative,
and expressed considerable resentment towards their decision to
allocate preferences to Labor.
Heffron
Heffron is a predominantly working class electorate, taking
in much of the former industrial area between the city and Port
Botany, as well as Sydneys Kingsford Smith airport. It includes
the suburbs of Redfern and Waterloo, where there are large concentrations
of low-income public housing; gentrifying suburbs such as Erskineville
and Alexandria, where a number of students and younger professionals
now live; to working class suburbs such as Mascot, Rosebery, Eastlakes
and Kensington, where many southern European migrants settled
in the postwar decades. The University of NSW is located on the
eastern edge of the electorate. Much of Heffron is part of the
federal seat of Kingsford Smith, where the SEPs candidate
James Cogan stood in 2004 against former rock singer and high-profile
Labor candidate Peter Garrett.
At the Alexandria booth, Leticia, a Brazilian woman with two
young children, said she had received a copy of the election statement
before election day and had voted for the SEP because she thought
there were already too many right-wing parties, so I wanted to
encourage a left-wing party. Asked about the war in Iraq,
she said: Im not sure if withdrawing is the best thing,
but definitely the war is wrong. Its a confusing situation
for normal people to know what to do. She said the US had
lied about its democratic aims in the Iraq invasion,
and spoke of her knowledge of US support for dictatorships in
South and Central America.
Shaun, 35, a librarian, voted Greens 1, SEP 2. He spoke of
the incompetence of the major parties, which he saw
as no different from each other. There was an absence of social
justice issues, and the parties just seem to be pursuing
their own interest with developers. He was very disappointed
the Greens did not preference the SEP, and was angry they had
preferenced Labor. If were switching more toward the
Labor Party, he said, then Ill have to reconsider
voting Green in the future, because thats just a sell out,
its not standing up for principles.
A young couple said that climate change was the main issue.
They thought it was a difficult election to make a choice,
with Labor and Liberal both unappealing and characterised by careerist
politics. They raised that behind the sense of frustration
that we both feel was the fact that neither party was driving
any real change and that the campaign was just a hold-and-maintain
policy to get re-elected.
Ben, a 30-year-old part-time engineer and part-time actor,
said he had witnessed a significant change for the worse
in both parties over the last 15-20 years. He thought the Greens,
though, were listening to people.
A woman who also voted Greens 1, SEP 2 explained that Labor
has just run the state into the ground, but the Liberals are worse.
They didnt seem to have any policies, and we didnt
really hear anything else from the other parties. She said
the elections would not resolve anything and it will just
be more of the same, more of the same, more of the sameits
very depressing. She had already read the SEP election statement
and thought the party was very good and made a lot of sense.
But she thought the radical change needed for the realisation
of the SEPs program was so vast that it was simply not
practical at the present time.
Another woman, 39-years-old, said the state ballot was the
most depressing election I have ever been a part of, where
Labor doesnt deserve to win again, but I think they
will.
George, did not know the Greens
had preferenced Labor before he voted. When told by SEP supporters,
he asked then whats the point of voting, if all you
can do is vote for Labor or Liberal? He said the promises
of the two main parties were all false and aimed solely at winning
elections.
A 19-year-old woman, who works as a manager, commented to the
SEP, Labor says they are doing a lot for the younger generation,
but I dont see it. She was supportive of the Greens
housing, education and environmental policies.
An Aboriginal woman, 18-years-old and voting in her first election,
criticised the Labor government for its lack of funding
for youth groups, saying that none of the main parties would
offer a real alternative for ordinary people, for whom things
were getting worse. She was critical of the Iraq war,
which she saw as an excuse for getting the oil and resources
of that country.
In Eastlakes, Ruhul Khal, from Sri Lanka said: Most people
think the old parties are no good anymore. People still think
it is a democracy, but this is not democracy. For me the number
one issue is the state of the world. The world is very shaky.
I am also worried about racism.
Khal continued: America is stealing the oil from other
countries, and using its soldiers to gain from other countries,
no matter how much we have protested.
The capitalist countries want to dominate over the world.
They want to make two classesone is capitalist and the other
is poor, with a big gap. Most people dont accept this, but
they cannot do anything. It is money and power. Everything is
owned by the capitalists. It takes time, but the world should
be changed. It cannot continue.
Noel Matis, a self-employed electrical
contractor, complained that the rich get richer and the
poor get poorer... As long as we've got those two parties, were
stuck with this system for ever more. This democracy only extends
to voting one of those two parties in. After that, they can make
laws or do whatever they want...
Matis said he voted for the Greens, even though I dont
know that much about them, because I am not happy with Labor and
Liberal. Theres not must else to vote for. I could have
voted socialist, but Ive got to find out more about them.
Ive got to read more about what your policies are, and then
Ill have an idea.
Retired electronics engineer, Joe
Ferguson, told the WSWS that for him, the main issue was the war
in Afghanistan and Iraq and that he voted for James Cogan
from the SEP. I read what he said and I quite agreed with it.
All this big ballyhoo about terrorism. It's all about the war
in Iraq and siding with America. We should not be there. It is
costing millions and millions, which I would rather see spent
on old people and hospitals. It is sickening.
I used to vote Labor before but I changed my mind because
they are the same as the Liberals. There is nothing between them....
Joe said that, as a retired person, it was not easy. They
should give us a decent living. Everything is getting dearer and
dearer, yet our pension is stuck down at the bottom. The pensioners
are forgotten. They want to make us all work longer, until we
drop in a hole and finish. I have had seven or eight letters from
the government asking me to go back to work. I am 72!
For an Aboriginal woman from La Perouse, the key issue was
that nobody is addressing law and order and the social problems.
NSW has more people in prison than ever before. Is that the answer?
What have the grassroots people, the little people, got?
Nothing!
She told the SEP campaigners: I was looking at voting
for the Greens, but I was also wondering where their preferences
were going. If your party does not give preferences, I am really
going to have a look at your policies. While waiting in
the queue to vote, she read the SEPs election statement
and then called out: You got my vote!
Danny Ibrahim, an IT worker and Labor voter, said that both
Labor and Liberal were out for the same thingthey
just code it differently. For them its all just a big marketing
campaign, its all PR work. I honestly dont think they
give a fig about anything, that is, except profits, turnover and
superannuation packages.
Theyve been doing it so long, I am surprised nobody
has picked up on it yet. What struck me is the amount of money
they spent on their campaigns. That money could have been spent
on doing something for the country. For me the main issues were
the state of the schools, and the state of the public hospitals.
Ibrahim said that he had just voted for Labor. Why? It
cant be any worse than it is now can it? I dont know.
I just wanted to get in there to vote, and get out. I dont
think Labor is a lesser evil, I just voted for them for the heck
of voting. I had no idea about your party. Ill read your
material now.
Marrickville
The Marrickville electorate centres on the established working
class suburbs of Dulwich Hill and Marrickville, and stretches
into the gentrifying inner city areas of Newtown and Camperdown,
where many professionals and university students live due to their
proximity to the central business district and the University
of Sydney. Because of the relatively large Green vote in these
areas in recent elections, the Greens focussed their lower house
election campaign in Marrickville, in an attempt to win the seat
from sitting Labor member, Education Minister Carmel Tebbutt.
Marrickville was also the only Sydney seat in which the middle
class protest organisation Socialist Alliance stood a candidate.
Scott, a property developer and former Australian Democrat
voter, told SEP campaigners that he disagreed with Australian
involvement in the Iraq war. We should have never gone to
Iraq... This not a war on terror. You cant have a war
on terror, only a war on another nation. George Bush and
company are a major problem for the world today.
Commenting on the state elections, Scott said: I feel
disillusioned and intend to cast an invalid vote. There is no
true democracy when youre made to vote and whichever way
you vote the major parties end up with it anyway. All the preferences
flow to them.
Asked about the education system he said, To have to
pay for education is simply wrong. When I went through university
my education was free and it should stay that way. How are the
kids who really want to, and should, attend university but cant
afford it, supposed to get in?
Scott said: Politics is no longer about the people but
business and is conducted that way. For politicians, getting elected
is about profitability, about getting more money.
A nurse from a Sydney teaching hospital, who wanted to remain
anonymous for fear of victimisation, said her main concerns were
the Howard governments industrial relations laws and climate
change.
Natal Shekoush, a mental health
support worker, said she agreed with the SEPs central policiesfor
the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, against militarism, the anti-terror
laws and attacks on democratic rights.
People need programs but they are too busy working to
know whats really going on politically. Naturally people
do care about others, in Iraq and elsewhere, but are just not
aware about what is going on.
She said that the media was brainwashing people on important
issues. They focus on hating Islam, and ignore the real issues
that people worry about.... And the anti-terror laws
are disgusting. It means they can just hassle Middle-Eastern people
more.
She said that the recent Cronulla race riots were completely
media driven.... The government is just trying to divide people
to cover over the real issues.
People have to become aware, to get educated about whats
happening. We have to start by planting that seed [of awareness]
in peoples heads, thats a start.... At the moment,
people feel they have no hope.
Locksmith Nick Friedl, who is married
with a young son, told the WSWS he was disgusted with the
arrogance of the state Labor government.
One of the major issues in this election was public transport.
Im fed up with the time that it takes to get from point
a to point b. Trains and buses are cancelled without notice. You
just dont know when they will arrive.
The public hospital system is also a mess and my young
son will be going to school soon but the state school system is
in a bad way.
I dont support the Liberals but all of this is
the responsibility of the Labor government. Labor has had plenty
of time to sort these things out, but nothing has really changed.
Labor is meant to be a working class party and it is not doing
anything for the public.
In the last federal election I voted for Mark Latham
and the Labor Party but a few months after that it became clear
to me that it would have been a disaster. I started to realise
that Labor is just not for the public. They say they are against
the gas emissions and want to save the earth but instead of improving
public transport, which is a cheap and effective way to cut pollution,
theyve cut the services.
I came here last night and saw all the posters and plastic
placards put up by the Labor Party. There are dozens of them but
how much does all this cost? Its just overkill. Do they
have to ram things down peoples throats?
If Labor had done a good job, why would they have to
spend all this money on advertising. Apparently theyve spent
over $116 million on this campaign. If theyd put this into
public transport, schools and hospitals you wouldnt see
me complaining.
Friedl, who was wearing a Bring David Hicks Home
t-shirt, said he was angry and concerned about the five-year detention
in Guantánamo of the young Australian.
Im not an activist or campaigner on David Hicksits
not a vote of approval for whatever he is supposed to have donebut
what is happening to him is wrong and has to be stopped. My eyes
have really been opened on this issue.
If Hicks came from a wealthy family he would not just
be there for five years without charge. This is a class issue.
When you realise what has been going on in the last ten
or fifteen years then you start to understand that something is
fundamentally wrong with our society.
Toni Wilburton, a ceramic artist, told the WSWS she was concerned
about climate change and the environment.
The big issue for me is the damage being done to potable
water supplies by long wall coal mining. I only found about the
impact of this sort mining through a project Im involved
in and saw a film called Rivers of Shame. It describes
the destruction this mining is doing to the Sydney catchments
area and river system. It is really shocking. Rivers are being
destroyed and the government knows it and is working with the
companies to try and cover it up. The Hunter Valley is being devastated.
People are completely uninformed about this. They just
dont know and this is a real problem.
Wilburton went on: The points your candidate [Patrick
OConnor] made at the climate change meeting [held at Marrickville
Town Hall] were really important. He said it was completely spurious
to tell people that if they had rainwater tanks and used their
grey water on the garden it would make a difference, because no-one
is told what the big corporations are doing. I agree there has
to be a coordinated international solution.
I must admit that the election is an alienating and unsatisfying
experience. The Labor government has disempowered local communities
and Frank Sartor [development minister] almost has feudal powers.
This is very dangerous.
Asked about the anti-terror laws and escalating attack on democratic
rights she said: The government deliberately uses the issue
of terrorism to make people afraid of each other and less willing
to work with each other. Any laws that do that are retrogressive.
This is an attack on human rights and freedom of action and is
designed to block people from acting together.
Warbuton said the SEP should investigate all the issues facing
working people and develop case studies and independent
investigations to demonstrate the need for its policies.
People need real analysis on all the questions theyre
facing. If your organisation is doing that then this is a real
step forward.
In Newtown, Judith, a bank worker, spoke to the SEP team after
voting for Patrick OConnor. She had received the SEPs
election manifesto in her letter box and studied it.
I voted for Patrick because your policies were very transparent.
I think there is very little transparency these days. You advocated
freedoms which I support, rights for working people and oppose
discrimination. I am very opposed to the war in Iraq. I liked
the fact that you made the war a main issue. I opposed the Vietnam
War in the 1960s and history seems to be repeating itself. We
need people like you who are trying to stop it. I tried to fix
it up during Vietnam, I joined in the marches and demonstrations
at the time. I can no longer march, I have to resort to voting
now and I wanted to support someone who was against the war.
In neighbouring Erskineville, Stephanie Ward, a young actor
who has established her own theatre company, said she voted for
the Greens. With Work Choices, the Liberals policies
are just appalling. Theyre stripping everyones rights.
Ive got a friend who signed an AWA, and hes my age,
working for $12.75 an hour. How do you live off that? Everyone
is on the poverty line, everyones just getting by, no-one
can save any money... Basically Im very worried about the
Work Choices so thats why my vote went to the Greens.
Des Hayes, a plasterer who lives in a flat
in Lewisham, said he had voted Liberal all his life but voted
Labor in the state election out of disgust for the Howard government.
Industrial relations laws have changed things around
in the way of work. Everything is now open slather in the building
industry and people just have to live with it. The unions dont
have any rights or any say anymore.
Des explained that he was still on the same hourly rate, of
about $35 an hour, that he earned in 1999. Now, though, he regularly
travelled three hours to Canberra to get plastering jobs because
he could not find jobs in Sydney. He said that unlike the
politicians he would have very little superannuation to
retire on and would need to save.
Although he voted Labor, Des said he was dissatisfied with
both the Labor and Liberal parties. It is comfortable for
them and they dont even have to consider what the electorate
thinks, because there is no opposition. They just do what they
like. There needs to be a third, fourth and fifth choice of government.
In fact, we need to get rid of Labor and Liberal and start again.
If I had my chance to tell them what I thought in parliament
I would, but people like me never get to speak.
Patrizia said she voted for the Socialist Equality Party because
she had read the SEPs statement and opposed the war in Iraq
and the lack of decent jobs for young people. She has three children
in their 20s living at home.
Most of the jobs today are casual and people lose their
discipline if they dont work full time. My children studied
at university but then couldnt find jobs in their industries.
One son studied environmental management but then couldnt
find a job.
It is the future of the youth that I am really concerned
about. Many young people dont see a future. As you say,
many could face a war in the future. I can tell you that I didnt
raise my children for over twenty years to then send them to war
to get shot at.
Newcastle
The electorate of Newcastle is centred on what was once one
of Australias major industrial cities, which has suffered
massive job losses in steel and related industries over the past
15 years. The seat takes in suburbs surrounding the former BHP
steelworks such as Mayfield, Waratah and Georgetown, as well as
suburbs like Hamilton and Cooks Hill, where some urban renewal
has taken place and numbers of students live who attend the University
of Newcastle.
Kevin voted for Bryce Gaudry, who stood as an independent after
resigning from the ALP after Labors state executive ignored
the local branch and appointed former radio announcer Jodi McKay
as Labors candidate.
I am really angry about what happened. Like many Labor
supporters in the area, I did not appreciate the undemocratic
way the selection was carried out. It is typical of Labor and
the leadership in Sydney. They ignore the wishes of people in
the communities on all kinds of issues and favour the big developers
and big business people.
Kevin said he had opposed Labors attempt to close down
the rail service into Newcastle that would have seen the rail
corridor land merged with the foreshore. We would have lost
a vital service and the land would have been sold off to developers
and not made available for public use.
Keith, a small businessman, also spoke out against the law
and order campaign rolled out by the Newcastle Herald,
and supported by all the candidates except Noel Holt.
Calling for more police is ridiculous, Keith said.
What do they wantthe same number of police as the
population, one for one? The problem is social. It can only be
overcome by creating an environment where people are not threatened
by worsening conditions of life.
Many problems, including violence, stem from drugs. Because
of the way this society is structured, with growing unemployment
and other social problems, drug dependency is bound to evolve.
There should be a situation put in place where funding
is made available to assist drug users to break with dependency.
The program of help must be continuous. At the same time there
needs to be jobs and training for young people.
Keith said that his small business was not doing badly and
he made a decent living but could not ignore the situation facing
the majority of people in Australia and everywhere. There
is no doubt that there has to be a real change in society. Just
look at the terrible situation that exists here and in countries
around the world. Look at third world countriesthere is
still crisis and terrible poverty.
This should not happen. It comes back to the same issuethere
has to be funding and education made available, but governments
everywhere are not providing this. There is money, but it is directed
all the time to the top end of society. This needs to be reversed.
Keith said he believed that it was important that the SEP had
raised the question of the war in Iraq in the election. It
is wrong to be there. Howard is just a puppet for Bush and seems
to do whatever the US demands. He says we need an alliance with
the US to protect Australia. What have we got to be protected
from?
I am worried that the situation can lead to a much bigger
conflict over oil and other resources. I dont believe all
the talk that the US is looking for a diplomatic solution. There
are signs that things will only get worse.
Many people who spoke to SEP campaigners at the polling booths
in Newcastle said they had received and read the SEPs statement,
which was distributed to most households in the electorate in
the course of the election campaign. Some said they would vote
SEP while others said they had given Holt their second preference.
See Also:
NSW election: Labor government returned
despite popular disaffection
[26 March 2007]
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