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Interview with Bryan Palmer, biographer of James P. Cannon,
founder of American Trotskyism--Part 1
By Fred Mazelis
28 September 2007
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This is the first part of a two-part interview conducted
by Fred Mazelis of the Socialist Equality Party with Bryan Palmer,
the author of James P. Cannon and the Origins of the American
Revolutionary Left, 1890-1928, the first volume of a new biography
of the pioneer American communist and later the founder and leader
of the American Trotskyist movement. His work was reviewed by
the World Socialist Web Site on September 18. (See A fighter for Marxism in America)
Palmer will be speaking about his book and the life of Cannon
at 6:30 p.m. on Friday, October 12, at an event in New York City
hosted by the Tamiment Library at New York University. The meeting
will be held on the 10th floor of Bobst Library, which is located
at 70 Washington Square South.
FM: Could you tell our readers how you came to write this book?
BP: Im an academic, at least in terms of how I make my
living. Ive always been somewhat outside of the conventional
box of university life, however. On one level, which I think is
a pretty routine level, I am a bit on the margins because of my
subject of interest, which is labor history. More particularly,
I became an academic in the 1970s because I thought it afforded
me an opportunity to apprentice myself as a Marxist. I became
an historian precisely because it allowed me to look at what happened
in the past and to learn from that with respect to my interest
in the Left and in the prospects for working class revolution.
I have always written about labor struggles.
What really puts me outside of most academic convention, however,
is that my own background has been one of, not just sympathy with,
but commitment to, the Trotskyist movement and its interpretation
of history in terms of the revolutionary movement since 1917 and
the Russian Revolution. And so, as much as I have been a professor,
teaching students labor and social history, I have also felt the
need to study the fundamental contributions of Trotskyism to struggles
in North America.
I had known about Cannons presence since I began studying
labor history in the 1970s. His writings were familiar to me,
as was the fact that he represented a kind of living continuity,
a red thread that ran from the World War I period into the 1940s,
50s and 60s. And I wanted to deal with this history. I had wanted
to work on it for quite some time, but I knew it was going to
be very difficult. In many ways it was a daunting task. I remember
getting in my car and setting out to drive to Wisconsin to look
at the massive collection of James P. Cannon Papers. Sitting in
the Wisconsin State Historical Society, opening file folder after
file folder, and later, when I was able to obtain some of these
and other records on microfilm, and turning those reels frame
by framethere were days when I wondered if it would ever
end. Not only was there a plethora of sources that had to be consulted.
There were also minefields of different political perspectives.
The project therefore lay dormant for a while, in part because
of the challenge it raised. But I grew increasingly discontented
with the understanding of the Communist Party in the historiography
as it had developed up until the early 1990s, and this deepened
my conviction that this history had to be tackled.
FM: Could you discuss the different approaches that have been
taken to the American Communist Party, and your own conception
in this context?
BP: By the 1980s, the historiography had developed into two
warring camps, more or less. On the one hand, you had the works
of Theodore Draper, in particular. His two volumes, dating from
1957 and 1960The Roots of American Communism and
American Communism and Soviet Russiathese were in
my view incredibly rich in information, but also deformed by Drapers
liberal Cold War view that you could sum up the American Communist
movement as simply the creature of Moscow and Moscow domination.
The interesting thing about Draper is that he knew a lot about
communism. He had an insiders feel, because
he himself had been involved in the movement in the late 1930s,
and he clearly knew the terrain in ways that those who had never
been involved could not. I was impressed by this feel for the
subject, despite Drapers interpretive drift into purely
negative assessment. Also, Draper was careful about doing research
meticulously. Of course, he made errors, but by and large he did
get things right, and he had an amazing commitment to research
and even to preserve the record of the communist past. He worked
closely with Cannon, and had the greatest respect for him, for
his integrity and truthfulness.
Draper made the well-known comment, flowing out of their correspondence
over a number of years, as well as meetings that the two regularly
had in New York, that Cannon wanted to remember precisely
because the past lived for Cannon in an ongoing political engagement.
If you look at Earl Browders papers, which are archived
at Syracuse University, things appear very differently, at least
to me. Browder is not concerned with getting things right;
in contrast, he always wants to put himself in the right. Browder
has this large unpublished manuscript which I was able to read,
and it is an amazingly self-serving document. It drips with this
capacity to always place Browder at the center of everything,
someone who is always doing the best thing. But when you check
this memoir against other documents, you find that it is factually
incorrect, and it does this over a wide historical periodfrom
the antiwar movement of 1917, the underground movement of American
Communism, and all the way up to the period when Browder was a
major figure, on his way to becoming the leader of the American
Communist Party.
There is no doubt that Browder influenced Draper, for he too
was interviewed extensively for Drapers two volumes. But
Draper, as I have said, has a lot to tell us. The flaw in his
work, and what makes Draper ultimately misleading, is that Stalinism
was a particular development in the Soviet experience that Draper
never explains. Unfortunately, Draper just takes for granted a
slippery slope reaching from the Russian Revolution of 1917 to
the atrocities of Stalinism. This has become something of a conventional
wisdom of our time. Without really probing a history of immense
difference, Draper saw Lenin as equal to Stalin and equal to Moscow
domination. This is a position that I reject.
What followed Drapers work was that of people like Harvey
Klehr and John Earl Haynes, who began to pick up his approach,
but they have been a rather pale reflection of Draper. This is
not to say they have not contributed something to our knowledge
of communism. Haynes, in particular, has done wonderful bibliographic
compilations, and I can attest to the extent to which he aids
scholars of communism, even as he is well aware that they might
have very different views than his own. But I think that if you
read Klehr and Haynes, from the vantage point of someone sympathetic
to the original Bolsheviks in Russia and America, it is apparent
that they have no empathy for the revolutionary project of the
period, and their scholarship, as a consequence, does not have
the depth of Drapers researches, nor does it have Drapers
capacity to locate people in the struggles of their time in ways
that bring to life what was happening.
In any case, Draper and his followers were one side of the
writing on American communism. The other side was taken up by
New Left historians whose research and writing postdated the 1960s.
This school of historiography challenged Draper, but
in a way it also suffered from an inability to grapple with Stalinism.
If Draper simply ignored Stalinism because it did not seem to
matter in ultimate realization of Moscow domination of the American
communism movement, the New Left writers whose scholarship started
to appear in the 1970s and 1980s also sidestepped Stalinism, but
for different reasons. The New Left tended to want to see in American
Communism an indigenous radicalism that it could hold up as an
alternative to capitalist hegemony. It often reveled in the post-1935
Popular Front period in America. One should remember that, as
these historians wrote, the 1960s mobilizations that many of them
had participated in had subsided, and they were searching for
examples of mass radicalizations in their historical research.
They could say, here was a time, the 1930s, when we had a mass
movement. They couldnt critique the mass movement, however;
only in a sense celebrate it.
So, for Draper American communism was a Moscow caricature,
while for the New Left it was an indigenous radicalism we could
celebrate. Both of these camps missed the opportunity to interrogate
this history in ways that can give us lessons for today. They
didnt analyze the history in terms of its strengths and
weaknesses, and what we could learn from it. Draper insisted that
American communism was made in Russia, and that communism was
inevitably a dictatorial foreign import. He could not see that
Stalinism was a particular variant of communism being politically
defeated within the Soviet Revolution, and the accomplishments
of 1917 being overturned as a consequence. The New Left insisted
that what American communists did was largely of their own making,
and managed to sidestep the extent to which a thoroughly Stalinized
Comintern, by 1930, set so much of the stage on which radicalism
played out, and did so in politically problematic ways.
I wanted to chart a new interpretive path, through James P.
Cannon and his development as a Bolshevik. I thought this could
tell us much about what the Communist experience in America was
really all about. I wanted to uncover what was truly revolutionary
in the origins of American communism, and how that experience
was then transformed by Stalinism. Cannon lived this history,
he learned from it, and he struggled to translate those lessons
to future generations of American revolutionary communists, building
a party committed to the realization of workers emancipation
and power.
What was amazing to me was that Cannon had never seriously
been written about. He had written about his political times,
in books such as The History of American Trotskyism and
of course The First Ten Years of American Communism, which
consists primarily of his correspondence with Theodore Draper.
People in the Trotskyist movement had known about these writings,
but they were hardly treated all that seriously in other quarters.
And the New Left showed little interest in overcoming this disinterest.
Leaders of American communism were much studied in the post-1990
years. There were two biographies of William Z. Foster, as well
as treatments of Jay Lovestone, of Max Shachtman, and of Earl
Browder. But Cannon had no biography.
I felt you could not grapple with Stalinism by looking only
at American Communist leaders who never broke from it. And other
than Shachtman, none of the above named figures did. You needed
a Cannon who went through it, who for some years himself didnt
criticize Stalinism, but was increasingly ill at ease until the
lights began to go on, so to speak, when Cannon read Trotskys
critique in Moscow in 1928.
FM: What prepared Cannon for his decision in 1928 to support
Trotsky and the Left Opposition? What in his background and experience
predisposed him to make this decision, in contrast to people like
Foster and Browder?
BP: That is a very interesting question. Its really a
twofold issue. I think what prepared Cannon for Trotskyism was
the same set of things that, in many ways, also inhibited him
from coming to Trotskyism earlier in the 1920s. In a sense Cannons
strengths were also his weaknesses.
On the one hand, Cannon represented the best that the American
working class was able to produce at a particular moment of its
development. From an early age, he embraced the fundamental tenets
of the revolutionary working class movement as expressed in the
Industrial Workers of the World, the Wobblies. He believed in
the emancipation of labor, and he believed this would be accomplished
by the working class, although he recognized that there were powerful
capitalist interests in the United States that would do everything
in their power to block such liberation.
What motivated Cannon above all, I think, was the concept that
an injury to one is an injury to all. And he saw this question
of injury, of injustice, in a broad political way, not just at
the point of production. He saw how the state and the legal system
could move against dissidents and put them in jail. In the Haywood-Moyer-Pettibone
case in 1906, when workers leaders were threatened with
being railroaded to prison, the American working class rallied
to the cause of defending these men. The great socialist leader
Eugene Debs spoke across the land and publicized in other ways
the fundamental injustice that was being perpetrated against all
workers. Cannon was 16 at the time, and becoming involved in this
movement of mass protest was fundamental to his political development.
Cannon never lost his deep-seated rage about thishow
the full weight of the state could be used against the working
class. He saw both sides of labors subordination: the exploitation
at the point of production, but also the political repression.
He blended the political and economic at a very early age. He
could never become a pure and simple trade unionist like Gompers,
only interested in trade unions as institutions to get workers
more money in wages. Cannon sensed that there had to be more to
working-class life than this. He was very close to the working
class, a great defender of unions, but also a very political figure
who understood that more was at stake than any simple business
unionism could provide.
Cannon gravitated toward the IWW as his first entrée
into the movement because he saw the Socialist Party as somewhat
limp and compromised. The Wobblies revolutionary determination
appealed to him, in contrast, but in the back of his mind he sensed
that something was missing. He saw the need to fight politically,
even if, for a time, he did not quite grasp how that might be
done. In the meantime, Cannon gravitated to the soapbox and the
front lines of the class struggles as a Wobbly. It was the Russian
Revolution that woke him up to the necessity of a political party
of the working class, a Leninist party to challenge capitalism
politically. Together with the kind of industrial militancy expressed
by the Wobblies and Marxist theory as an explanation of reality
and a guide to how to struggle, all of this, in 1917-1920, seemed
to Cannon to offer a way forward. The Bolsheviks represented a
kind of unbeatable combination of these strengths and potential
advances of the working class that many Wobblies couldnt
understand.
So Cannon went back into the Socialist Party, into the Left
Wing, and then he helped to found the Workers Party, the legal
communist party, in 1921. His project was to build a revolutionary
party in the United Statesthis is what he learned from the
Russian Revolution.
It was an incredibly difficult task, as he was well aware.
The early movement was a very uneven formation, even in its leading
cadre. They came from so many different streams. There were the
foreign language federations, composed as they were of a plethora
of Old World migrants to America: Finns and Jews, Ukrainians and
Poles, Germans and Russians. Native radicals spoke the same language,
to be sure, but they were individuals from very different backgrounds:
New York and Kansas were worlds apart. Miners in semi-rural sections
of the Midwest and craft workers in the trades in Philadelphia,
Cleveland, and Chicago. Workers who were white, and workers who
were not, and workers who were not black, but who were hardly
perceived as white. Radicals whose schooling in dissident
thought included Kautsky as well as Henry George. All of these
revolutionary workers needed to be brought into a single organization
of class struggle, and educated in the program of revolutionary
communism.
What Cannon brought to this project was a kind of political
intuition, the blend of the political and economic approach that
I spoke of , but what he lacked was a deep grounding in Marxist
theory. Many of the European Marxists had a much greater facility
in this regard.
As he struggled between 1921 and 1928, Cannon often relied
on the skills he had developed out of his American experience,
his skills as an orator, as a synthesizer. He was sometimes denigrated
as a kind of Tammany Hall politician. Benjamin Gitlow, eventually
a supporter of Lovestone, said that about him, but this was always
unfair. In an unpublished memoir of Alexander Bittelman, a major
figure in the Jewish Socialist Federation, and later to be William
Z. Fosters main theoretical adviser, Bittelman talks about
Cannon moving through the various layers of the party in the 1920s
like a mechanic. He means this as a compliment: the craftsman
building an organization, using skills necessary for building
a revolutionary movement, melding different layers together and
seeing to it that they function as they should.
Cannon spent so much time on this that it was difficult for
him to stop and ponder and educate himself further. He didnt
have some of the language skills or flair for conceptualization
that his younger colleague Max Shachtman had, or that characterized
the Canadian Maurice Spector. But Cannon could always see that
the skills that these kinds of individuals possessed could be
harnessed to the needs of the revolutionary party. Cannons
strengths in building such a party meant that he saw that his
limitations as a leader could always be supplemented by the skills
of others, overcoming collectively what might be lacking in an
individual.
He could be and he was won to Trotskyism, then, but it took
him longer because he didnt have certain of these skills
that might have allowed him to see earlier and more clearly how
Stalinism was undermining the revolutionary program of the Russian
Bolsheviks and how, in turn, through the Comintern, Stalinism
was constraining revolutionary developments around the world,
including inside the American Party. And Cannon was not alone
in this plus/minus make-up. Other United States communist leaders,
like the early Jay Lovestone, or the party leader until his death
in the 1920s, C.E. Ruthenberg, were also marked by their strengths
and weaknesses, as was one of Cannons closest allies in
the early-to-mid-1920s, William F. Dunne.
If Cannon was thus inhibited somewhat from grasping Trotskyisms
critique of Stalinism in the mid-1920s, what eventually opened
him up to see the correctness of Trotskys position? I would
argue that Cannons strength eventually prevailed over his
weakness. His strength, ultimately, was that he wasnt capable,
as some others were, of closing his eyes to what was going wrong
in the party. He might have retired into the International Labor
Defense as a kind of factional fiefdom, but in the end he did
not. As a revolutionary, he wasnt satisfied with that kind
of politically constrained life. He was able to see that there
was a problem, and if he could not quite put his programmatic
finger on it with a deft immediateness, he was, when finally confronted
with a well-developed argument and criticism, incapable of ignoring
it. Trotsky opened his eyes to the nature of the problem, to its
source, to the fact that what was wrong with the Communist International,
and with its affiliates around the world, was not simply a series
of petty power struggles by individuals. Rather, what was at stake
was a broad programmatic deviation from essential communist principles.
To be continued
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