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WSWS speaks to striking writers
By Dan Conway, D. Lencho and Kevin Mitchell
5 February 2008
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Over the weekend, the media reported that the Writers
Guild of America (WGA) and the Alliance of Motion Picture and
Television Producers (AMPTP) tentatively outlined a deal meant
to put an end to the three-month-old writers strike. (See
Grave dangers in the film and television
writers strike)
Last week, the WSWS spoke to striking writers on the
picket lines at studios in the Los Angeles area. The conversations
took place prior to the news of the tentative deal between the
guild and the studios and networks. We talked with writers about
the Directors Guild (DGA) contract, the increasingly conciliatory
attitude of the WGA leadership toward the AMPTP, and the general
political situation in the United States.

Many strikers were critical of the DGA contract because of
the give-backs it contains on residual rates for online streaming
of television and film. However, many also remained hopeful that
the WGA would work out something better.
On January 31 the WSWS spoke with Irene Turner, a television
and film writer, outside Paramount Studios in Los Angeles.
WSWS: What is your opinion of the
DGA deal and what implications do you think it has for the WGAs
negotiations?
Irene Turner: In some ways, I think its a breakthrough,
because, frankly, thanks to our toughness, we got them to bend
on some things that we thought they would never give in on, such
as some of the streaming and jurisdictional issues. With that
said, the streaming rate is ...
WSWS: Its pretty abysmal.
IT: Yeah, its pretty awful. I wish that we could do better.
But what people forget is that the DGA deal was offered to the
DGA, so who knows what we, the writers, will be able to negotiate
or what well be offered. Its also a better deal for
screenwriters than it is for television writers in general.
WSWS: Could you elaborate on that?
IT: Well, we dont have crystal balls to see in the future,
but the kind of TV that doesnt get rerun such as the serial
shows, Lost and Heroes, for example, whose second
run will be on the Internet. In that sense, going from a residual
payment to a streaming payment will be a big jump downward. On
the other hand, the most efficient model for non-serialized and
proceduralsshows that repeat well due to the fact that a
viewer can drop in and watch, without having to follow a whole
complex storylinewill be reruns. Those repeat very well
and writers will still get that reuse payment.
WSWS: The writers strike is occurring in the midst of a major
recession in the US and internationally, with thousands of workers
losing their jobs and oftentimes their homes. Film and television
are very powerful artistic media, even though writers are more
often than not limited in how they can make use of it. What is
the role of a writer or what should be the role of a writer in
this context?
IT: Its really complex. On the one hand, I firmly believe
that if you write with your political viewpoint first, as opposed
to your emotional point of view, you can sometimes end up being
dry and polemical.
At the same time, you need to write whats important to
you. As a person, I like to write about things that reflect my
world view. Im currently writing a novel for example, thats
set in South America involving a large landless movement there.
The land in South America is concentrated in the hands of a few
wealthy people and people are fighting simply to live on subsistence
farms. And the issue is how much can you do for someone in another
country and when is it time to get committed about things?
So, I do write things that are political and at the same I
do feel that in order to create something that works as a piece
of art, you have to concentrate on the art first. But inevitably,
what you write reflects who you are.
WSWS: Well, politics, art, emotion; these arent mutually
exclusive things.
IT: I agree. But if you try too hard to make a statement it
becomes dry. You have to create characters who believe in something
or are challenging something or even those who dont believe
in anything. And then, you need to figure out why they care or
why they dont.
I, myself, tend to put things in a bigger context and I know
that the word weve been getting on a national level is that
a lot of labor leaders are excited about this strike, because
its the first time in a long time that the strikers are
looked at as the good guys. Because, in a way, everybodys
fighting the conglomerates. Everybodys feeling like this
large octopus is coming after them, so its casting us as
the underdogs and people are behind us because of that.
The same day, the WSWS also spoke to Jim Reagle at Paramount.
WSWS: What do you think it means
to have huge multinational corporations deciding what the public
can and cannot see, and what sort of impact does that have on
the writers?
Jim Reagle: It just means that this is rogue capitalism running
amok, just as it does in every other sector of the economy. But
Im not speaking in socialist terms for your benefit, and
Im not a socialist either. Its just rogue capitalism
and Im against it.
WSWS: What do you think of the Democrats?
JR: The Democratic Party makes noises about being pro-labor.
John Edwards made the only sense to me as being pro-labor, although
Barack Obama is pretty good. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand,
is simply a Republican in Democrats clothing.
The Democrats are in bed with the conglomerates too. I have
no illusions about the Democrats. Honestly, at this point, I dont
know who Im going to vote for. Ill probably abstain.
On January 31, a team of WSWS reporters also went to NBC Studios
in Burbank and spoke with Anna Sandor.
Anna Sandor: Theres always a power struggle between the
artist and the money man and Im surefor themin
the best of all possible worlds, theyd like to control everything
and theyd like to not pay residuals.
Ive been out here every single day but one day for close
to three months. And one of the reasons that I believe in my union
is that when I get a residual payment and whether its for
$100 or $5,000, the reason I get those checks is because of the
people behind me doing what theyre doing, and if we dont
do this, the writers 10 years down the line are going to be saying
What did you do?
Theres so much lobbying and so much big money in the
major parties, I understand that theyre just not going to
line up blindly behind the union and take the unions side.
WSWS: The control of the entertainment industry by studios
attached to giant conglomerates affects writers and their art,
what they write, what they feel the can write.
AS: With so many independent filmmakers today, its now
even hard to tell the difference between the independents and
the studios, its all sort of blending together. So its
getting harder and harder, but I dont know what the solution
is.
The WSWS finished the week by speaking with several
striking writers outside of NBC Burbank on Friday, February 1.
Michael gave us his assessment of the AMPTPs conduct in
the negotiations.
Michael: The AMPTP-theyve been kind of jerks. Most people
dont think that theyve been really sincerely doing
negotiations because there were a few times when they made an
offer, such as they said If you take DVDs off the table
well negotiate, well present a package with new media.
And then the WGA did take it off the table and the AMPTP didnt
present anything. And then, right before the strike started, the
AMPTP falsely claimed that the WGA walked out of negotiating,
saying we cant deal with them.
That was not fair. I think what they wanted to do was to make
the writersthis is not my theory, its a prevailing
theorythey wanted to make the writers look bad and childish
and then negotiate something with the directors to save face.
They also wanted to prolong it to make the writers hurt a little
bit.
It used to be when there were moguls running the town, that
there was a certain amount of guilt involved. They lived in the
same town. They knew a lot of the people and its not as
much that way. Now its a board of directors and its
people who are just number-crunchers that say, Hey, you
know, we can go this long, lets let the writers sweat it
out.
I dont think its as conducive to good entertainment
really. I mean it used to be that Louis B. Mayer got involved
and wanted to make good movies and I dont think that the
case with GE. Theyre just looking at the bottom line and
thats it, which is not a good way to make art.
Whos that CEO? He ran this company into the ground, and
it was a media company too, and took away $30 million. Like a
golden parachute. And it happens all the time.
When you screw your job up and youre just a regular working
guy, they fire you and they dont give you your next three
years pay. For some reason, these CEOs consider themselves
a whole different caste of people.
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