WSWS correspondents spoke to some of the people who participated or joined in the Socialist Equality Party/ International Youth and Students for Social Equality rallies in Sydney and Melbourne on Saturday against the preparations by the US and its allies for war against Syria.
At Liverpool, in Sydney, Alex, a 58-year-old worker with a Syrian/Lebanese background, heard about the rally from SEP campaigners earlier in the morning, while shopping with his two sons. He listened intently to the speakers. âThe rally is a good way of explaining to people who donât know whatâs going on around the world,â he commented.
Alex said people were unconvinced by Washingtonâs pretext for war: âItâs all built up on lies over the past years. You can lie once or twice, but how much can you lie? People arenât stupid. People donât accept wrong things⊠The Iraq war was all set up; it was a lot of propaganda to make people believe their reasons for going to war. But now the truth has come out, itâs all rubbish.â
Alex said âObama did a favour for himself⊠pulling back from bombing Syria⊠Itâs a good thing that he didnât do it and I hope he will never do it again because you can talk to people and find a proper solution.â He added: âThe Australian government is just a puppet, like sheep. Whenever Bush or Obama say a few words, the next day we hear the same music from the Australian government.â
Reflecting on the underlying causes of war, Alex said: âThere is plenty of food around the world to feed people. Itâs not fair to kill a hundred thousand people and then give those who survive a few crumbs. They should have got rid of capitalism a long time ago but the governments donât listen to the people who voted for them. They donât give a damn about them.â
Reed, a 17-year-old high school student, explained why he participated in the rally. âThe American push for war in the Asian region has brought my attention to this. It makes me think that we are leading ourselves into a bigger situation where the possibility of World War III will occur. Now there is much talk about how World War III will be the end of humanity because of advanced weaponry, things such as nuclear weapons and chemical warfare.
âThis really does strike doubt into the path that humanity is going to take in the futureâwhether weâll become an extinct species and destroy the whole planet with us. The only way that I can see us coming out of this situation is by taking the power ourselves. The problem with capitalism is that the ruling elite is unconcerned about the masses, the people. Theyâre more interested in their own economic advantages. Thereâs no consideration of the working class or things such as education and cost of living.
âThe rally today showed me there is more public interest in the war on Syria than I realised. Passers-by were stopping, becoming interested in what the speakers were saying and then reading the leaflets the SEP was handing out. Itâs a start to becoming politically conscious about whatâs happening around the world.â
Chris, 32, a forklift driver, stopped to hear the speakers at the rally. Commenting on the pretext of attacking Syria because of the Assad regimeâs alleged use of chemical weapons, Chris said: âYou canât fix war with more war. They want a new war as part of the âeconomic machine.â They can then continue controlling the people. Obama has said they are there to protect their interestsâfor energy. They need to prop up their dollar, so their economy can keep going.â
Chris added: âThis war is also about diverting the focus of people from other issues. Radiation is still coming out of Fukushima, and they don't want people knowing about that or thinking about it. If you get people to focus on Syria and chemical weapons, they donât think about other things.â
Asked for his response to the rally, Chris said: âI like what your organisation is doing. You are trying to connect people. We have to stand up as one. We canât say the government is going to do something. We have to do it.â
Solomon, originally from Ethiopia, said the number one issue in the world was âhumanityâ and âthe need to stop the killing.â He said the rally was âvery niceâ because its concern was for the poor people, not for those with the power.
Asked about the role of the American government, Solomon commented: âAmerica is looking for the money only, and uses its power for killing. The people with the money support America, and they donât care about anyone. America wants to take over countries, even when they donât want it to.â
Solomon was critical of Barack Obama. âObama is looking for himself and for those he needs to pay his bills. How are you going to help the people in Africa, or Afghanistan, or anywhere, by killing people? How is that democratic? People are being killed every day in these places. How is that creating democracy? Obama is not looking after the world, he is trying to dominate it.â
In Melbourne, Ajit, a service technician, saw the rally and decided to join it. He explained: âIâve been following the situation in Syria for a while ... Syria is just a way for the US to get through to Iran, which is the real target, and a way to get full control around the region. Itâs not just about Syria, thereâs a whole other play thatâs going on as well⊠Iran is one of the few remaining countries in the Middle East that is not under Washingtonâs control. So for the US to gain full control of the oil in the Middle East, Iran is a big key to that.â
The US-Russia brokered chemical weapons agreement would not stop a war, Ajit said. âI think the Obama administration will be pushing every means possible. For them this is just a setback. They will find other ways, create another smokescreen to try and get in there. Thereâs too much riding on this for them.â
Ajit added: âEveryone should have the right to education, health, clothing, food. So if governments are taking away those rights, straight away itâs in direct relation to everyoneâs human rights⊠I think weâre moving away from the capitalist era, and thatâs what needs to happen, that shift to the workers, the people. I think thatâs what we will see eventually. There are so many mass protests now, like you saw in Egypt, a mass overthrow of a whole government. So what youâre doing is very good.â
Alex, a university student, also stopped to listen to the speakers. Earlier this year he attended a meeting organised by the pseudo-left Socialist Alternative organisation, promoting the regime-change operation in Syria as a democratic revolution. âBut from what Iâve seen on actual raw footage of whatâs happening in Syria, it doesnât look like itâs for democracy,â he explained. âIâve seen lots of raw footage from liveleak.com that showed the FSA [Free Syria Army] murdering Syrian army soldiers. If they were for democracy they wouldnât do thatâthey would capture the soldiers and bring them to justice. Theyâve also used Sarin gas.â
Alex continued: âI think itâs a war for oil, for money. The economy of the US is doing too badly; theyâre so desperate to get more of whatâs supplying their economyâand thatâs oil.â He added: âI have been following Snowden, Assange and Manning ever since they each first leaked information. Theyâre the three people I most support. In their revelations theyâve opened the eyes of the public to what kind of global police state weâre living in.â